Game of Thrones begins....

[Martinus]

Dragon spoilers!

http://winteriscoming.net/2013/04/vfx-supervisor-talks-creating-the-dragons/

Can you really fit a spoiler on a dragon?

[Admiral Yi]

Did you understand my initial point as I intended it or as he misrepresents it?

As you intended it.  But you can't take for granted that your entire audience will have Yi-like powers of discernment and perception.

[Martinus]

And Stannis is burning loyal men who just wanted him to get his crazy witch to stop destroying their holy statues and sending their sons into insane battles.

History is written by victors. If Stannis loses, it is really hard to see him depicted as anything else than a mad tyrant who blasphemes against the gods of old.

He's not burning religious opponents though.  He didn't burn Davos.  Of course history will frown on losers.  That's what happens to losers.

The worship of Seven Andal Gods is status quo ante - anyone who tries to upset that is causing social upheaval - you of all people should be able to understand this.

Besides, my personal view of people who convert from one religion to another is that they are scum - I can understand losing one's religion and going atheist, I can understand keeping one's faith for cultural and social reasons, but anyone who deliberately and conciously abandons one's own culture only to accept an equally delusional set of beliefs of another culture is a dangerous madman.

[Neil]

And Stannis is burning loyal men who just wanted him to get his crazy witch to stop destroying their holy statues and sending their sons into insane battles.

History is written by victors. If Stannis loses, it is really hard to see him depicted as anything else than a mad tyrant who blasphemes against the gods of old.

He's not burning religious opponents though.  He didn't burn Davos.  Of course history will frown on losers.  That's what happens to losers.

The worship of Seven Andal Gods is status quo ante - anyone who tries to upset that is causing social upheaval - you of all people should be able to understand this.

Besides, my personal view of people who convert from one religion to another is that they are scum - I can understand losing one's religion and going atheist, I can understand keeping one's faith for cultural and social reasons, but anyone who deliberately and conciously abandons one's own culture only to accept an equally delusional set of beliefs of another culture is a dangerous madman.

There were clear advantages to converting in this case though:  While the Andal gods are powerless figments of imagination, the demon R'hlor is probably real and his adherents certainly have sorcery that is unavailable to the other claimants.  The Lannisters and Starks both enjoyed fanatical support in large areas of Westeros, and even Renly enjoyed broad, if rather shallow support.  Stannis lacked these advantages, so he took to magic.

Besides, do you think Stannis' change in religion is causing more or less upheaval than the wars raging across central Westeros?  Or Cercei's bungling with the Church Militant, for that matter?

[Eddie Teach]

The worship of Seven Andal Gods is status quo ante - anyone who tries to upset that is causing social upheaval - you of all people should be able to understand this.

Besides, my personal view of people who convert from one religion to another is that they are scum - I can understand losing one's religion and going atheist, I can understand keeping one's faith for cultural and social reasons, but anyone who deliberately and conciously abandons one's own culture only to accept an equally delusional set of beliefs of another culture is a dangerous madman.

Have you forgotten the scene where your boy was killed by a shadow beast? 

[Viking]

Did you understand my initial point as I intended it or as he misrepresents it?

As you intended it.  But you can't take for granted that your entire audience will have Yi-like powers of discernment and perception.

Then I propose that garbon is intentionally quarreling semantics simply because he disagrees "against" me on principle.

[Martinus]

By the way, did anyone mind Loras being all smiles during the dinner with Cersei? I remember from the books that he was much more moping/drama-ish after Renly's death.

[Tamas]

By the way, did anyone mind Loras being all smiles during the dinner with Cersei? I remember from the books that he was much more moping/drama-ish after Renly's death.

it wasnt like an intimiate family gathering.

[Viking]

By the way, did anyone mind Loras being all smiles during the dinner with Cersei? I remember from the books that he was much more moping/drama-ish after Renly's death.

Given that Mace, Garlan and Garth Tyrell aren't cast I'm pretty sure Neil Finn is playing all of them as well.. or at least Loras is filling their role's in the story.

[Martinus]

So, no comments yet after the last night's ep? 

[The Larch]

So, no comments yet after the last night's ep? 

You can do that yourself too, you know. 

Really liked it myself, maybe more than the first one. Lady Olenna seems like she'll be a hoot to watch, and the guy that plays Thoros looks very promising.

[Habbaku]

Dennis Pennis as Thoros of Myr.   

[garbon]

Did you understand my initial point as I intended it or as he misrepresents it?

As you intended it.  But you can't take for granted that your entire audience will have Yi-like powers of discernment and perception.

Then I propose that garbon is intentionally quarreling semantics simply because he disagrees "against" me on principle.

There is some history being written by some losers isn't a particularly compelling or insightful statement.

[Josephus]

No boobs in the last episode.



In an unconnected comment, I'm noticing the "children" have really grown up since last year. Arya seems to be a foot taller as does Bran, whom I don't think Hodor will be carrying around much anymore. Sansa is blossoming nicely. I thought her bit with Olenna was the best part of the last episode.

Oh, and I guess they're intentionally not making the popular Tyrion as disfigured as he seems to be in the book

[Martinus]

So, no comments yet after the last night's ep? 

You can do that yourself too, you know. 

Really liked it myself, maybe more than the first one. Lady Olenna seems like she'll be a hoot to watch, and the guy that plays Thoros looks very promising.

I liked it less than the first one, I guess, but it could be also because I was so GoT-starved last week.

Really liked all the new characters introduced, though, from the Reeds, to Queen of Thorns, to Ramsay (poor Theon!), to Thoros.

No Danny though. I still fail to be at all excited or engaged by Jon Snow plot, too.