Game of Thrones begins....

[Razgovory]

I'm thinking that Raz was trying to make a point that what one is okay with in the books doesn't necessarily translate to their real life circumstances, though I'm unconvinced that grumbler is okay with the murder of an unarmed man.

See, someone pays attention.  Grumbler said something stupid.  I called him on it.  The neat thing is, he's pretending to ignore me so I can say anything I want about it.  He just has to take it.  I always get the last word.

[Siege]

So, battle for Meeren:
- Daenerys riding Drogon (she droped the whip-whips don't work on dragons, despite what happerned at the fight pit)
- Khal Jhaqo, subdued by Daenerys and Drogon.
- Victarion and his Iron Fleet.
- Ser Barristan Selmy and all the dudes inside Meeren.

Who else?
Will Tyrion turn the Second Sons before the Unsullied comes out of the gates?
And Daenerys' sellsword is gone, thankfully.
What was his nam? Whatever.

[Siege]

Fuck man, I can't stand the Starks anymore.

[Scipio]

Fuck man, I can't stand the Starks anymore.

Every one of them but Bran and Ned was a worthless piece of shit in Book One, and nothing since has changed.

[Eddie Teach]

Arya was awesome up until she started killing people who hadn't personally wronged her.

[Neil]

My main beef with the Stark kids is that they're always going on about how they are almost men and women grown, no matter how old they are.

[garbon]

Fuck man, I can't stand the Starks anymore.

Every one of them but Bran and Ned was a worthless piece of shit in Book One, and nothing since has changed.

Bran? His chapters have always been awful.

[Eddie Teach]

Good people are usually dull.

[Neil]

Wait, what did Robb do in book 1?  I thought that he was an alright guy until the Westerling disaster.

[garbon]

Good people are usually dull.

Children are generally dull.

[Neil]

Good people are usually dull.

Children are generally dull.

Most people are rather dull.  You know what's not dull?  Dreadnoughts.

[Siege]

Fuck man, I can't stand the Starks anymore.

Every one of them but Bran and Ned was a worthless piece of shit in Book One, and nothing since has changed.

Totally agree. Ned was kind of a square, but in a good way. I could serve him.
Unlike Stannis, which is a total retard that think "justice" is all he needs to lead.
Robert Baratheon was hands down the best leader in Westeros.
Too bad he married a Lannister. I think that marriage and getting fat were the only two stupid things he ever did.

And Bran seems great, I really like him, but his character is not fully developed, which kind of goes with his age in the novels.

I liked Robb until he started fucking that Westerling bitch, and especially after he beheaded the Lord Karstark, what was his name?
That was against all the values of the North. No man can get between a father and his revenge.
You should know the men you lead and the laws they live for.

When you think about it, both Jon and Robb made the same mistakes.
They tried to do what they thought Ned would have done, but they totally failed because Ned always did "good" whithin the frame of Northern culture. Which in the end means Ned failed to educate correctly and pass on his leadership ability to his sons.

[Siege]

Arya was awesome up until she started killing people who hadn't personally wronged her.

Why? What's wrong with killing people that need to be killed, but haven't personally wronged you?
By your account, if you didn't personally lose somebody on the 9/11, you had no bussiness fighting in the WOT.
Rethink your statement.

[The Larch]

I liked Robb until he started fucking that Westerling bitch, and especially after he beheaded the Lord Karstark, what was his name?
That was against all the values of the North. No man can get between a father and his revenge.
You should know the men you lead and the laws they live for.

Since when is mindless revenge part of the values of the North? Dissobeying your liege lord and executing prisoners are much worse than that. Robb couldn't left that go unpunished, it'd be a huge blow to his credibility as a leader.

[Siege]

I liked Robb until he started fucking that Westerling bitch, and especially after he beheaded the Lord Karstark, what was his name?
That was against all the values of the North. No man can get between a father and his revenge.
You should know the men you lead and the laws they live for.

Since when is mindless revenge part of the values of the North? Dissobeying your liege lord and executing prisoners are much worse than that. Robb couldn't left that go unpunished, it'd be a huge blow to his credibility as a leader.

Exactly. He placed himself in a position with no choices. Revenge is part of North culture and he should have understood that Karstark would have taken his revenge no matter the price. Robb failed to perceive that in the North revenge is more important than trading hostages. He got this southron mentality of hostages from the Tullies.