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Started by Josquius, April 04, 2011, 03:39:14 AM

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viper37

#8340
April 23, 2019, 12:29:08 AM Last Edit: April 23, 2019, 10:40:46 AM by viper37
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on April 22, 2019, 01:58:06 AM
Random thoughts:
Jamie dies, Arya "takes" his face and kills Cersei crossing her off the list and also fulfilling the prediction.
There's the Bronn wildcard though...

"Jamie" as in Arya, is killed by Bronn, leaving Tyrion to kill his sister, as by the prophecy.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

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Zanza

#8341
April 23, 2019, 03:38:13 AM
I found the revelation that Jon is Aegon Targaryen underwhelming in both episodes. Neither the revelation to Jon, nor to Dany was really epic for what is one of core story arcs and mysteries since the show started.

viper37

#8342
April 23, 2019, 10:44:53 AM
Quote from: Zanza on April 23, 2019, 03:38:13 AM
I found the revelation that Jon is Aegon Targaryen underwhelming in both episodes. Neither the revelation to Jon, nor to Dany was really epic for what is one of core story arcs and mysteries since the show started.
Possibly because at this point, everyone except Daenerys thinks of surviving the battle ahead, they don't really have plans for beyond that.  Let them win the battle, or just survive it, and later that reality will sink in everyone.  Maybe the Mother of Dragons will think of backstabbing her newfound nephew.  I can't see her renouncing her claim, nor can I see Jon Snow pushing it.
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miozozny

#8343
April 23, 2019, 01:09:02 PM
Quote from: grumbler on April 22, 2019, 08:46:00 PM
Have I left out anyone?

The Mormonts, Grey Worm, Missandei, Jaime?

Habbaku

#8344
April 23, 2019, 01:20:45 PM
Who's the fresh meat?
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Barrister

#8345
April 23, 2019, 02:03:35 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on April 23, 2019, 01:20:45 PM
Who's the fresh meat?

Registration date of 2011.  I think it's just one of our long-term lurkers.
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Razgovory

#8346
April 23, 2019, 03:03:20 PM
I think the battle at Winterfell will happen over two or three episodes.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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Sophie Scholl

#8347
April 23, 2019, 03:07:42 PM Last Edit: April 23, 2019, 03:09:41 PM by Benedict Arnold
Quote from: Razgovory on April 23, 2019, 03:03:20 PM
I think the battle at Winterfell will happen over two or three episodes.
I'm going with 1 1/2.  Bran will fall to the Night King/merge with him as the cliffhanger this Sunday and then we'll have a lot of death before Bran manages to exert control just long enough to get the Night King killed in the next episode.  Maybe have a dead dragon and a dead Jon or Dany thrown in there for good measure.  There are only what, 4 episodes left?  One has to be a resolution type episode presumably, leaving 3 episodes to cover the Battle of Winterfell and King's Landing.  Keep in mind, the episodes are all longer from here on in though.
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Josquius

#8348
April 23, 2019, 05:14:38 PM Last Edit: April 23, 2019, 05:17:35 PM by Tyr
Major suikoden vibes in that last episode. Which was cool.

Lots of problems with it. But overall nice.

I note every character appearing. Even ghost came back. But where has melissandre disappeared to? Have I forgot something?


I sadly see a pretty simple ending to this show. It has massively diverged from the books. Where with the books I think we will get a peaceful ending the show is very much about the heroic showdown the books are trying to subvert
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Zoupa

#8349
April 23, 2019, 05:48:10 PM
Didn't the showrunners say their ending and Martin's are the same?

The Minsky Moment

#8350
April 23, 2019, 06:35:24 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on April 23, 2019, 05:48:10 PM
Didn't the showrunners say their ending and Martin's are the same?

So the show isn't going to have an ending?

Edgy.
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viper37

#8351
April 23, 2019, 06:41:51 PM
Quote from: Tyr on April 23, 2019, 05:14:38 PM
I note every character appearing. Even ghost came back. But where has melissandre disappeared to? Have I forgot something?
She was exiled last season, never to set foot on Westeros again, under penalty of death.

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I sadly see a pretty simple ending to this show. It has massively diverged from the books. Where with the books I think we will get a peaceful ending the show is very much about the heroic showdown the books are trying to subvert
I don't think of the books as some kind of peaceful art... Martin has killed and resurected and killed more characters than the tv show could afford to.  Since the beginning, nothing is really peaceful in this story, I doubt G.R.R. will have Jon Snow and the others sit with the Others, and talk their differences over tea...  :sleep:



@MinskyGood one! :D
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

crazy canuck

#8352
April 23, 2019, 06:56:46 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on April 23, 2019, 05:48:10 PM
Didn't the showrunners say their ending and Martin's are the same?

The problem is Martin and the show had a falling out some time ago.  They were completely on their own last season.  Martin gave them a general idea of where his books were going and how he was thinking of resolving the series - but the show has diverged from the books quite a bit and so I would not be surprised that the Martin ending (assuming we ever see it) is different.

Habbaku

#8353
April 23, 2019, 08:48:58 PM
I'm still holding out for moon-meteor cataclysm (a theory from the books that has only mild support in the show).
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

grumbler

#8354
April 23, 2019, 08:56:47 PM
Quote from: miozozny on April 23, 2019, 01:09:02 PM
Quote from: grumbler on April 22, 2019, 08:46:00 PM
Have I left out anyone?

The Mormonts, Grey Worm, Missandei, Jaime?

Die, dies, dies, lives.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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