Wonder Woman tv series

[grumbler]

Yeah, pair him with JMS and it would be gold.

Agreed.  They complement each other very well.  JMS for the story and production, Whedon for dialogue and direction.

[grumbler]

For Whedon I think I lot of it is focus.  When he concentrates on an episode or series it can be brilliant beyond just the dialogue.  A great example is the Buffy episode Hush which has very little dialogue but is thoroughly entertaining even if a bit predictable.  Unfortunately he has a tendency to get distracted and let his ideas get away from him.

Yes, I think he is great at the "tactics" of TV, but not so much the strategy.  That worked for Buffy, but not anything since.

[Savonarola]

Love Greek mythology, so I love her back story. She's also willing to kill people unlike Batman and Superman.

Super Girl's just a female knockoff of Superman, Power Girl is literally Super Girl from another dimension, Hawk Girl... seriously?

I like Zatanna and Black Canary. Not really a fan of other DC girls.

The character Super Girl is fundamentally different from Super Man in that she grew up on Krypton and suffered the loss of her entire civilization; while Super Man came to earth as an infant - he's an outsider because of his super powers but didn't suffer the loss as she did.  Also Super Girl lives in the shadow of Super Man and must try to establish her own identity.  Plus she has a horse:



What is it that you think is lame about Hawk Girl?

[Darth Wagtaros]

Yeah, pair him with JMS and it would be gold.

Agreed.  They complement each other very well.  JMS for the story and production, Whedon for dialogue and direction.

JMS always struck me as weak on dialogue.  So it would be a great team.

[viper37]

Yes, I think he is great at the "tactics" of TV, but not so much the strategy.  That worked for Buffy, but not anything since.

Angel was very good, mostly.  Other shows were cancelled early, it's hard to tell.

[Caliga]

AngelCharisma Carpenter was very good, mostly.  Other shows were cancelled early, it's hard to tell.

[grumbler]

Yes, I think he is great at the "tactics" of TV, but not so much the strategy.  That worked for Buffy, but not anything since.

Angel was very good, mostly.  Other shows were cancelled early, it's hard to tell.

I think of Angel as being part of Buffy.  Both parts of the series were good, I thought, though, from what I saw.

There is a reason why the others didn't last.

[viper37]

There is a reason why the others didn't last.

Had B5 been on Fox, it would have been cancelled before the end of the 1st season.  Many of these episodes were very weak (TKO and Infection among others), and those that were good only truly shine once you know what comes after that.

Firefly was an excellent series.  It should not have been cancelled.

Dollhouse had weak moments, and you can trace the difficulties of the show around the writer's strike, IIRC.  And Fox moving/pre-hempting episodes, as usual. Same with Terminator, but that's not Whedon.

As I said, had JMS worked for Fox instead of Warner, B5 would never have existed in this way.  Just look at what happenned with Crusade.  Knowing JMS, you really think Crusade deserved its fate?

[viper37]

AngelCharisma Carpenter was very good, mostly.  Other shows were cancelled early, it's hard to tell.

this post is worthless without pics  

[MadImmortalMan]

Fred > Cordy

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Had B5 been on Fox, it would have been cancelled before the end of the 1st season.  Many of these episodes were very weak (TKO and Infection among others), and those that were good only truly shine once you know what comes after that.

Firefly was an excellent series.  It should not have been cancelled.

Dollhouse had weak moments, and you can trace the difficulties of the show around the writer's strike, IIRC.  And Fox moving/pre-hempting episodes, as usual. Same with Terminator, but that's not Whedon.

As I said, had JMS worked for Fox instead of Warner, B5 would never have existed in this way.  Just look at what happenned with Crusade.  Knowing JMS, you really think Crusade deserved its fate?

Nice red herring.  What does Crusade of B5 have to do with Whedon's weakness at putting together a compelling show since Buffy/Angel?

If your aunt had had balls, she would have been your uncle.

[Caliga]

Fred > Cordy

Is that the chick who was a giant nerd when introduced in the show and suddenly became HOTT later?  My memory of this show is starting to fade...

[Viking]

Fred > Cordy

Is that the chick who was a giant nerd when introduced in the show and suddenly became HOTT later?  My memory of this show is starting to fade...

Amy Acker iirc, but, seriously... I wouldn't kick Amy Acker out of my bed, but Carpenter is Internett HOTT.

[MadImmortalMan]

Amy Acker iirc, but, seriously... I wouldn't kick Amy Acker out of my bed, but Carpenter is Internett HOTT.

Playboy HOTT actually. Hef got her to pose.


But Amy Acker is more my style. She's awesome.

[viper37]

Nice red herring.  What does Crusade of B5 have to do with Whedon's weakness at putting together a compelling show since Buffy/Angel?

I disagree with you implied assertion that Joss Whedon produces poorly written shows and that would be the only, or main cause for their early disapearance from tv.

The success or failure of a TV show goes beyond the simple good or bad writing of the show.  Voyager ran for 7 years on TV.  That's 2 more than B5.  There never was any threat of cancelling Voyager.  It must mean that Voyager is better written than any other sci-fi series, save for TNG, DS9 and Stargate SG1.

You make simplistic assumptions based on your personal and very restrictive preferences.  I don't think I remember seeing you appreciate a tv show since B5 ended.  There are other writers in the universe beside JMS, you know