[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[viper37]

I know about opportunity cost.  But that is a choice both partie make.  She may seek other arrangements, she is not pressured into your arrangement.  You could decide not to marry and not be subject to this kind of law.  The State should not intervene in this.  It breaks many valuable enterprises for no good reasons and encourage one of the spouse to be dependant to the other rather than seek equality.

[Malthus]

I know about opportunity cost.  But that is a choice both partie make.  She may seek other arrangements, she is not pressured into your arrangement.  You could decide not to marry and not be subject to this kind of law.  The State should not intervene in this.  It breaks many valuable enterprises for no good reasons and encourage one of the spouse to be dependant to the other rather than seek equality.

So that's the basis of your objection, and not that it is an "anachronism".

I'd say, rather, that it encourages couples to make economically wise decisions for maximizing total value, while at the same time forming families - both of which society definitely has an interest in promoting. 

The notion that society would be better off if everyone formed little self-reliant libertarian communes of one is, to say the least, not widely shared. 

[Valmy]

A gay friend of mine got married in a unitarian church before it was legal. No legal marriage resulted.

I certainly attended my share of those sort of things. In fact in April I will be attending my first government blessed homosexual marriage.

[Malthus]

A gay friend of mine got married in a unitarian church before it was legal. No legal marriage resulted.

I certainly attended my share of those sort of things. In fact in April I will be attending my first government blessed homosexual marriage.

Once again, may I remark that the homophobic resistance to gay marriage never made any sense - even assuming one hated gays with a fiery passion? 

[dps]

she has her own carrier. 

Cool!  Does she let you land on it?

[Valmy]

Once again, may I remark that the homophobic resistance to gay marriage never made any sense - even assuming one hated gays with a fiery passion? 

They had their reasons. But the result was not so much that gays didn't get married it was just that their lives were arbitrarily made more difficult for petty reasons.

[Grey Fox]

I am in favor for the elimination of state sanctioned marriage so yes, I am for religious ceremony not being filled if the parties don't want it to be.

[Valmy]

I am in favor for the elimination of state sanctioned marriage so yes, I am for religious ceremony not being filled if the parties don't want it to be.

I don't think it is that simple if the stronger party is doing it to weasel out of their obligations.

[Grey Fox]

I am in favor for the elimination of state sanctioned marriage so yes, I am for religious ceremony not being filled if the parties don't want it to be.

I don't think it is that simple if the stronger party is doing it to weasel out of their obligations.

What obligations? If its never filled, you don't have any obligations.

[Valmy]

What obligations? If its never filled, you don't have any obligations.

The ones discussed in the article

[Grey Fox]

What obligations? If its never filled, you don't have any obligations.

The ones discussed in the article

If you are not married then they don't apply.

[Valmy]

If you are not married then they don't apply.

Right. So you get "married" but avoid the obligations by bailing on the civil marriage. Which is what I said originally.

[Jacob]

If you are not married then they don't apply.

Right. So you get "married" but avoid the obligations by bailing on the civil marriage. Which is what I said originally.

Unless, of course, your state recognizes common law marriage in which case you get your religious but not civil marriage and after however long living together, the common law marriage kicks in.

[crazy canuck]

If you are not married then they don't apply.

Right. So you get "married" but avoid the obligations by bailing on the civil marriage. Which is what I said originally.

Unless, of course, your state recognizes common law marriage in which case you get your religious but not civil marriage and after however long living together, the common law marriage kicks in.

Isn't that another version of a state sanctioned marriage that GF opposes?  After all a "common law" marriage is something that is a legal relationship imposed by Statute.

[viper37]

If you are not married then they don't apply.

Right. So you get "married" but avoid the obligations by bailing on the civil marriage. Which is what I said originally.

Unless, of course, your state recognizes common law marriage in which case you get your religious but not civil marriage and after however long living together, the common law marriage kicks in.

there's no such thing as common law here.