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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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Barrister

Quote from: Josephus on January 10, 2025, 05:45:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 10, 2025, 11:57:47 AMOh and I forgot - Liberal Party is unlikely to even be the leader of the opposition.  They're likely to be the third party - or maybe even the fourth party.

That, I'm not so sure of Beeb. We're all in agreement they will lose the election, but I think they will get official opposition. No one takes the other parties seriously enough. I mean, not even I do, and I used to be a diehard NDP-er.

BQ will do well.

In order to be official opposition Liberals would need to get 40+ seats.  With current poll numbers, that seems questionable.

CBC poll tracker puts BQ and Libs within the margin of error of each other for seats.

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/

And they're a lagging indicator - most recent polls have been even worse for the Liberals.
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Josephus

Yeah, maybe but a new leader will give them press and a lift, like Kamla did. Not enough to win, but enough to get them the seats they need for Opposition status.
Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

Barrister

Quote from: Josephus on January 10, 2025, 06:14:31 PMYeah, maybe but a new leader will give them press and a lift, like Kamla did. Not enough to win, but enough to get them the seats they need for Opposition status.

Of course.  And never say never - the Libs could win this.

It just seems quite unlikely.
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Oexmelin

Thanks cc.

I am not entirely convinced with the assessment, or perhaps the style of it. I couldnt't help but snicker at that line: "Voters often think in metaphors and storylines". It seems so astonishingly patronizing, and yet so ironically oblivious coming from the press that loves nothing more than metaphors and storylines...
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viper37

Quote from: crazy canuck on January 10, 2025, 09:47:42 PMCoyne's piece on Trudeau

Scathing and accurate.  Gifted link

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/gift/519974dc5e28f762a87fb14c1570523f4fb873adfcfcb945043907ccc3c41650/JZ25RYN7QNC4BCBFPOKZ7HIDGU/
I read this this week.

It's like the G&M opened their eyes suddenly because the wind shifted, and now they want to enlighten us. :roll:
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Josephus

It's easy to pick on Trudeau now, as it was easy to pick on Mulroney when he left office.
I think history will look kindly on Trudeau, as it did Mulroney. There were plenty of things he did get done: mostly the child benefit which did a lot to reduce child poverty, the dental plan (I get Singh had a lot to do with that one), I think Trudeau did well during COVID, and dealt with Trump 1.0 admirably.

He will be remembered for reneging on the electoral reform (that really gets me) and the ethics scandals he had to deal with; but by and large I think he was a succesful prime minister.

Every era has its end-date. Trudeau past his by a couple years. Sometimes I think the American two-term rule might be apropos here too.
Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

crazy canuck

Quote from: viper37 on January 11, 2025, 10:49:42 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 10, 2025, 09:47:42 PMCoyne's piece on Trudeau

Scathing and accurate.  Gifted link

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/gift/519974dc5e28f762a87fb14c1570523f4fb873adfcfcb945043907ccc3c41650/JZ25RYN7QNC4BCBFPOKZ7HIDGU/
I read this this week.

It's like the G&M opened their eyes suddenly because the wind shifted, and now they want to enlighten us. :roll:

Coyne has been saying this all along