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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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viper37

Quote from: Barrister on November 28, 2024, 11:26:48 AM
Quote from: viper37 on November 28, 2024, 11:20:17 AMIt's the same with Canada.  Alberta exports most of its oil to the US instead of shipping it to Quebec and New Brunswick.

Alberta would love to sell its oil to Quebec and New Brunswick.  There's just no way to get it there.

There was a multi-billion-dollar proposal to reconfigure an existing NG pipeline to send crude oil to Quebec and New Brunswick.  Trudeau killed it upon coming to power.
It's complicated.

Trudeau the elder killed this idea long ago that Quebec should refine any oil from Alberta, so our refineries aren't equipped for your oil.

So the oil would just transit Quebec to get to NB.  Social acceptability is extremely low for such a project.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

HVC

Ontario Conservatives jumping on the tax free holiday PR bandwagon and are going to match with provincial taxes.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Barrister

Quote from: HVC on November 28, 2024, 12:39:26 PMOntario Conservatives jumping on the tax free holiday PR bandwagon and are going to match with provincial taxes.

Really?  I wonder why.

Federal Conservatives will vote against it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/gst-holiday-vote-1.7395767
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Grey Fox

Why is the Ontario government saying anything? Ontario has a HST.
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

Barrister

Quote from: Grey Fox on November 28, 2024, 12:42:41 PMWhy is the Ontario government saying anything? Ontario has a HST.

Ah - digging in, it seems more that Ontario is just not seeking compensation from the Feds for the lost revenue, despite it costing the province $1 billion.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: HVC on November 28, 2024, 12:39:26 PMOntario Conservatives jumping on the tax free holiday PR bandwagon and are going to match with provincial taxes.

It's not so much that the are jumping on.  The Federal Liberals didn't think about the cost to the provinces that have a harmonized sales tax.  For those provinces it makes sense to get some political credit for the economic pain they are going to suffer whether they join in or not.

Josephus

Quote from: Barrister on November 28, 2024, 12:41:29 PM
Quote from: HVC on November 28, 2024, 12:39:26 PMOntario Conservatives jumping on the tax free holiday PR bandwagon and are going to match with provincial taxes.

Really?  I wonder why.

Federal Conservatives will vote against it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/gst-holiday-vote-1.7395767

These are the same Conservatives who are against taxes, but are going to vote against a tax holiday? What am I missing?
Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

Barrister

Quote from: Josephus on November 28, 2024, 02:19:22 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 28, 2024, 12:41:29 PM
Quote from: HVC on November 28, 2024, 12:39:26 PMOntario Conservatives jumping on the tax free holiday PR bandwagon and are going to match with provincial taxes.

Really?  I wonder why.

Federal Conservatives will vote against it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/gst-holiday-vote-1.7395767

These are the same Conservatives who are against taxes, but are going to vote against a tax holiday? What am I missing?

My friend - try reading the article. :hug:

They'd prefer permanent tax relief (of course Poilievre names eliminating the carbon tax) rather than an expensive tax holiday.
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crazy canuck

Here is some reporting from the Globe and it highlights the concerns I have with PP.  The first statement he made is entirely accurate.  The first sentence of the third paragraph is accurate.  But then he veers into attack dog intellectual dishonesty (to put it politely). The fact the number of asylum claims jumped has nothing to do with the border and PP knows it.  The reason it has jumped is because everyone here on a student visa that now faces going home because the Feds finally put an end to that abuse of the system has claimed asylum.  It's a claim that will fail, but the claimants are counting on the fact that our system moves so slowly that they will be able to stay while their claim is being processed.  That has nothing to do with people going to the US illegally.

In his efforts to be an attack dog, he has done considerable damage to the Canadian position.  Trumpists are not going to discern that PP is making false claims.  They are going to think the problem is worse than that thought.  And just in case the Trumpists missed it, PP made the connection clear in that last bolded statement.

What did we do to deserve this group from which we need to elect our next PM?

 

QuoteSpeaking on Thursday, the day after an emergency meeting between Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Premiers over pledged tariffs from U.S. president-elect Donald Trump, Mr. Poilievre said Mr. Trudeau bears responsibility for problems at Canada's borders, citing Quebec's Roxham Road, which turned into an unofficial border crossing for asylum seekers, and American concerns about thousands of foreigners sneaking into the U.S. from Canada.

On Monday, U.S. president-elect Donald Trump vowed to impose 25 per cent tariffs on Canadian and Mexican products over accusations of illegal migration and drug smuggling into the United States. 

"We didn't have these problems before Justin Trudeau, we didn't have Roxham Road before Justin Trudeau, we didn't have these illegal border crossings," Mr. Poilievre said. "The number of asylum claims have gone from 10,000 to over 200,000 under Justin Trudeau," he said.

"What we're seeing now, though, is that because the Prime Minister has vacated the border and turned it open to anyone who wants to come in, the Premiers are now taking responsibility for our border," he said.