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Started by Martinus, March 21, 2011, 08:36:07 AM

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garbon

#165
January 30, 2012, 01:33:16 PM
Hmm...so sounds like a need to have then?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Tamas

#166
January 30, 2012, 01:41:55 PM
no its not.

Preordering is the only way to get a fully functional game without paying extra for such obscure content as Habsburg and Plantegenet coats of arms

Neil

#167
January 30, 2012, 01:48:09 PM
So it sounds like this is a 'wait a year and then buy for 5 bucks' sort of game?
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

garbon

#168
January 30, 2012, 01:49:24 PM
Quote from: Tamas on January 30, 2012, 01:41:55 PM
no its not.

Preordering is the only way to get a fully functional game without paying extra for such obscure content as Habsburg and Plantegenet coats of arms

That's what I meant. Preordering is a must do if one wants the real game when it is released.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Syt

#169
January 30, 2012, 01:50:32 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 30, 2012, 01:48:09 PM
So it sounds like this is a 'wait a year and then buy for 5 bucks' sort of game?

Seems like it.
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Maximus

#170
January 30, 2012, 01:54:33 PM
Yea I'm not likely to support that business model

Neil

#171
January 30, 2012, 02:28:38 PM
I'm not a big fan of launch day DLC, especially when it seems sort of like something that should be there.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

garbon

#172
January 30, 2012, 02:29:01 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 30, 2012, 02:28:38 PM
I'm not a big fan of launch day DLC, especially when it seems sort of like something that should be there.

Yeah it does seem pretty shitty - and unnecessary.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Barrister

#173
January 30, 2012, 02:47:20 PM
Meh - it seems like it is the way of things these days. :(
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Darth Wagtaros

#174
January 30, 2012, 03:05:29 PM
Yeah, but I ain't gonna support that crap.  A historical simulator about dynastic politics that makes you pay extra to get the coat of arms of the families you'd be playing as? 
PDH!

Tamas

#175
January 30, 2012, 03:15:05 PM
In all fairness, I think the fanboi chorus is being very effective in dritfing Paradox away from the whole "historical" nonsense.

Take a look at the Vicky2 expansion beta AARs they decided to publish. Now, I am hoping that the expansion will make the game work better, but, they seemed to prove what a magnificent expansion this is by showing that:
-you can become #1 GP with Zulu by 1936
-you can westernize, develop, then conquer parts of SE Asia as Hawaii

Granted, they have short beta AARs about Sweden influencing China and other shitholes to get enough coal off the market (helped by it's 1000 prestige it somehow has in 1844), and Prussia financing Belgian industrialization to keep them away from France, but come on. Those two AARs alone prove that your game has serious problems in simulating the late 19th century. Yet they showcase this as a good thing and have the fanbois rave that oh how cool this can be done.

Barrister

#176
January 30, 2012, 03:37:37 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 30, 2012, 03:05:29 PM
Yeah, but I ain't gonna support that crap.  A historical simulator about dynastic politics that makes you pay extra to get the coat of arms of the families you'd be playing as?

Meh - they're charging $2 for them.

Since there was never any chance of me NOT buying CK2, I guess I might as well pre-order then.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

garbon

#177
January 30, 2012, 03:52:08 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 30, 2012, 02:47:20 PM
Meh - it seems like it is the way of things these days. :(

Not including the basic graphics?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

#178
January 30, 2012, 03:53:21 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 30, 2012, 03:37:37 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 30, 2012, 03:05:29 PM
Yeah, but I ain't gonna support that crap.  A historical simulator about dynastic politics that makes you pay extra to get the coat of arms of the families you'd be playing as?

Meh - they're charging $2 for them.

Valid time to mention slippery slope, no? Oh you want event images - $2. Oh you'd like these extra events - $2. etc.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Darth Wagtaros

#179
January 30, 2012, 03:53:42 PM
They could have rolled it into the price of the friggin game then. I'd have bought it.
PDH!
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