Crusader Kings 2 Redux

[Jacob]

If you start in a time period post the Shia Caliphate Rising event can happen, that shouldn't be surprising.

Indeed 

I was - in case it's unclear - referring to games started before the historical rise of the Shi'a Caliphate. I always start in the earliest time period personally - I could've made that clearer.

[jimmy olsen]

Byzantine cardinals? Did they go Catholic despite conquering/inheriting Italy?

Nah, the Byzantine empire controls Italy - except Spoleto. As usual, Italian Cardinals dominate - they're just part of the Byzantine empire.

Surely cardinals must be catholic though and if the Byzantines have held onto Italy for a while their bishops must be orthodox.

[dps]

Some generations later the Pope calls a crusade for Jerusalem. I decide to sit it out, since clearly I haven't figured out how to make it work for me. Besides, I have other things going on.

The bastard pope then excommunicates me! The nerve.

In my current game,, the pope excommunicated me for not joining a crusade.  First time that had ever happened to me.  No big deal, though.  I did some stuff to get more piety and sent him a gift after the crusade ended, and he lifted the excommunication.  No Catholic realm had attacked me in the meantime.

[Jacob]

Surely cardinals must be catholic though and if the Byzantines have held onto Italy for a while their bishops must be orthodox.

Surely. Which is why I said "Byzantine" which is a political affiliation, not "Orthodox" which is the religious affiliation. They were all Italian Catholics appointed from the Byzantine empire. You know, as per the Papal politics screen where you can allocate funds to have your bishops elected to the college of Cardinals.

[Jacob]

Some generations later the Pope calls a crusade for Jerusalem. I decide to sit it out, since clearly I haven't figured out how to make it work for me. Besides, I have other things going on.

The bastard pope then excommunicates me! The nerve.

In my current game,, the pope excommunicated me for not joining a crusade.  First time that had ever happened to me.  No big deal, though.  I did some stuff to get more piety and sent him a gift after the crusade ended, and he lifted the excommunication.  No Catholic realm had attacked me in the meantime.

Yeah... I checked and saw that I could ask him to lift the excommunication so I did. The predicted answer was "maybe"... I thought he might ask for money or something, but he said no. Problem was that after that I couldn't ask again - the answer was "no" because "I already told you no"... so Anti-Pope and war it was.

[dps]

When I asked, it was "yes".  But if the odds are roughly the same as when you try to revoke someone's title and the answer is "maybe", you probably had a pretty good shot.

[jimmy olsen]

Most of Mali has been conquered by my vassals, while I have put a vassal on the throne of Aquitaine reborn.

[jimmy olsen]

Plague killed my son. No matter, he was possessed, my genius grandson will inherit! Nope, dead from the plague. No matter, my daughter, married to my first kinsman to be elected Holy Roman Emperor will inherit!

And she did and has pretty good stats too, but of course her husband died, and her 2nd husband, and her 3rd. I'm on her 4th now and the plague is over.

[jimmy olsen]

The Emperesses died in childbirth before the walls of Alexandria while on Crusade.

Her eldest son earned the name of Hammer at the age of 7 or 8 with Hispania's victory.

I didn't want to concentrate on that end of the map, wanting to keep the focus on my expansion into the rest of Western Europe. So I gave Egypt to my younger brother, waited until I came into my majority to give the kingdom time to recover, and then gave him independence.

The Fatamids are done. Not only did they lose Egypt, a catholic vassal of theirs (duke of Arabia) successfully pressed his claim to Jerusalem. Their rest of their lands on the Arabian peninsula rebelled and all that's left is like three or four counties in Anatolia.

Mongols are growing ominously large, but thankfully seem concentrated on India for now, having successfuly conquered Ustang and Pala.

[jimmy olsen]

National account of Armenia talking about CK2

https://twitter.com/armenia/status/1029296342500298754

Have you played @CrusaderKings 2⚔️ as the #Kingdom of #Armenia 👑🇦🇲? Start as the historical Bagratid Dynasty🏰 and become the #King of #Kings🤴🏻!!!

[Tonitrus]

National account of Armenia talking about CK2

https://twitter.com/armenia/status/1029296342500298754

Have you played @CrusaderKings 2⚔️ as the #Kingdom of #Armenia 👑🇦🇲? Start as the historical Bagratid Dynasty🏰 and become the #King of #Kings🤴🏻!!!

And, of course, the comments do the immediate downward spiral into Turkey v. Armenia...

[Valmy]

Yeah but every conversation involving Armenia on the internet get there eventually.

[garbon]

CK2 is adding randomised world* starts. What a waste of time.

*map is same but everything else is randomised.

[dps]

CK2 is adding randomised world* starts. What a waste of time.

*map is same but everything else is randomised.

Yeah, a truly randomized map might be worthwhile, if difficult to implement, but just randomizing everything on the standard map is a waste.

[jimmy olsen]

It's been tough, I had to swear to the Abbasids a couple of times and half the realm has converted to heresies, but I finally have managed to capture a second holy site.  Should have taken a screen shot of India, the northern half is ruled by a massive empire.