Crusader Kings 2 Redux

[jimmy olsen]

Beowulf the Great established the Empire of Britannia and won a crusade for Greece, giving the Kingdom to his 2nd son. It was hoped that he would inherit, for he suspected his firstborn of being a spawn of Satan, however he died while his children were still young.

Leofwine the Accursed proved to be an able ruler however, granting his youngest brother the throne of Ireland and granting his brother in Greece independence, not caring for such far away lands. He has recently inherited Norway and a third of Sweden from his mother. His genius daughter is in line to inherit Britanny as well as his lands.

The Black Death is upon us. The King of Greece is dead, and his young son is having his land carved away by the Byzantines.

[jimmy olsen]

Holy Moly! New CBs!

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-50-a-reason-for-war.1019998/

Forced Vassalization
De Jure Duchy Claim
Ducal County Conquest
Great Conquest
Free Hostages

Greetings!

The weather is slowly recovering from the chaotic mixture of snow/rain/hail/sun that has plagued the Swedish April and work is starting on the next, yet undisclosed, expansion! The next expansion is going to have a specific theme which most features will be focused around (we can unfortunately not go into any detail in this DD), though we also want to add some features that can be of use regardless of who or where you choose to play. One of these is planned to be a 'Casus Belli Expansion', where we want to add new and oft-requested CBs to the game. The Focus is going to be on CBs that enhance the early and late game (as well as a few more roleplay-focused CBs). While this is by no means a final list, it's what we've made so far:


Forced Vassalization
This is a CB that can be used against neighboring realms to force them to become your vassal. To avoid making it too powerful it's quite heavily limited, only realms that are of a lower tier, under 30 realm size and where the ruler is of either your culture group or religion are valid targets. It also has a direct cost (prestige). For example; this can allow England to, with time, extend 'protection' to the smaller Welsh and Irish realms.


De Jure Duchy Claim
This CB was added to try to avoid situations where massive realms would fight over one single county, essentially destroying their armies for near no gain. Players often think these types of wars aren't worth fighting, and do not usually declare them themselves - instead they turn to Holy Wars or invite duchy claimants to expand in a more meaningful way. This CB provides interesting opportunity for conquest at the point where you form your first Kingdom or Empire. Any vassals present in conquered lands are preserved, and this CB also comes with a prestige cost.


Ducal County Conquest
At the very start of a game you might be stuck waiting for fabricated claims a very, very long time if you're unlucky. This CB is available to Count and Duke tier characters, and allows you to go to war over any County that are part of a Duchy you hold land in, as long as the Duchy has no holder. The CB has a cost of prestige and gold, making it similar to a fabricated claim (as that's essentially what it is). As an example, this gives count-tier characters in Ireland and the HRE an alternate way to claim a Duke-tier title, presuming that you can save up enough prestige and money.


Great Conquest
Unless you are playing as a Muslim, Nomad or Tribal-cultured ruler (who have access to invasions) you have no real way to expand in a meaningful way when you are playing as the ruler of a very large realm. While we still want expansion to be difficult, we also want to give players more static opportunities to expand. This CB is available to very powerful realms (at least 200 realm size) and can be used to claim an entire Kingdom from another character. Though the catch is that you have to fight someone that is as strong or stronger than you are, and using the CB itself costs a massive amount of prestige and piety.


Free Hostages
A long-requested CB, this allows you to go to war against a character in order to free any kidnapped concubines or wives, and release certain characters from prison (i.e. friends and dynastants). Rescued characters will, most often, be moved back to your court. It will also take hostages in turn, imprisoning a random close member of the target's family!

It's currently not possible to attack anyone who holds a close dynastic member in their prison (i.e. your child), is this something you'd like to see changed specifically for use with this CB? Otherwise it'll be of use primarily for freeing concubines (something that has been requested for a long time!).


Note that these CBs are by no means finished, and are currently being tested internally. Feel free to comment and feedback on them though, and also feel free to tell us what CBs you would like to see added!

[garbon]

CK2 is getting Tibet. Unless this is a stepping stone to China, not sure that map expansion is all that interesting.

[Syt]

CK2 is getting Tibet. Unless this is a stepping stone to China, not sure that map expansion is all that interesting.

Some more details: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-51-the-roof-of-the-world.1021920/

[jimmy olsen]

CK2 is getting Tibet. Unless this is a stepping stone to China, not sure that map expansion is all that interesting.

The game has gotten ridiculously fast with all the efficiency upgrades lately. I think the system could handle it.

[garbon]

What an odd reply.

[Solmyr]

CK2 is getting Tibet.

[dps]

Tibet without China makes little sense, and I'm "meh" about expanding the game into China, anyway.  Mostly because it's likely that Paradox will either make China totally OP or totally nerfed.

[Valmy]

China ruins every single Asia EU4 game I play. I demand a Chinese Exclusion Act for CK2.

[jimmy olsen]

What an odd reply.

I meant that if they decide to add China the game will be able to handle it.

[jimmy olsen]

Tibet without China makes little sense, and I'm "meh" about expanding the game into China, anyway.  Mostly because it's likely that Paradox will either make China totally OP or totally nerfed.

I imagine they'd make it an Imperial state using the Byzantine mechanics, which would make them OP. However they could try to balance it with a reskinned decadency mechanic to imitate a dynasty losing the mandate of heaven.

[Syt]

Decadency? I think you mean decadentism.

[Josquius]

China should be handled like dynamic Mongols. Unseen off the edge of the map unless someone on the east of the map gets too strong
Then send in the heavies.

[garbon]

I wonder how CK2 (re: AI) will play out with their upcoming change that wars for counties will not need to be claim based.

[Josquius]

Any idea when we can expect this new patch with the new ways to declare war?