Crusader Kings 2 Redux

[Valmy]

We have also added a "diplomatic range" to stop most interactions between extremely distant realms.

That is a relief.  I was envisioning St Thomas Christians popping up in Ireland.

[Queequeg]

Weren't Eastern-Western marriages as far as the Levant happening, though?  Anna of Kiev and whatnot. 

[Maximus]

Weren't Eastern-Western marriages as far as the Levant happening, though?  Anna of Kiev and whatnot.

It would be nice if it was a dynamic limit rather than a hard one, but it's probably better than what we have now.

[Valmy]

Weren't Eastern-Western marriages as far as the Levant happening, though?  Anna of Kiev and whatnot. 

Wasn't the Anna of Kiev thing so weird and unusual that the French were genuinely baffled by the Cyrillic script she left behind before Peter the Great and his entourage surprised everybody by reading it about 700 years later?

Levant marriages were more of a thing for Italian and nearby Christians not, say, Ireland and Sweden by what I can see and that makes sense.

[Grallon]

We have also added a "diplomatic range" to stop most interactions between extremely distant realms.

I've been suggesting something like this since EUI in 2000...  Better late than never I guess.




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[garbon]

I'm not sure it makes as much sense in most of their titles. CK2 is a bit different as you aren't expected to bestride the world like a colossus and there is no PTI.

[garbon]

This is good.

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?758436-Crusader-Kings-II-Rajas-of-India-Dev-Diary-4-Elephants-of-Mass-Destruction

But the other problem is supplies, it won't be a simple task to just walk across all of Europe with every single soldier you started with alive. You will now have to combat starvation as you march far away from your home. This means that Norse Vikings armies will have starved to death before even reaching India.

How it works is that while you are nearby your realm or your top-liege's realm your soldiers will fill up on supplies to keep themselves fed. These supplies will always last for 31 days. When they step too far away into neutral territory they will start to starve for supplies and have a ticking attrition that goes up slowly for each day. A good martial leader can of course counter-act it to a certain point. When you do finally reach the enemy territory, the troops will start foraging from their surrounding area to keep themselves supplied. The foraging builds on the pillaging from the loot bar except it goes a lot slower. When the soldiers can't take more from the loot bar they will start to starve again in 31 days. This will balance the rulers of Europe to invade their neighbors instead of happily jump over the Egypt and start carving their piece of India. Instead they will have to put a bit effort into it if they want to actually reach India.

[Razgovory]

Weren't Eastern-Western marriages as far as the Levant happening, though?  Anna of Kiev and whatnot.

I seem to recall that some of Harold Godwinson's family ended up in Russia as well.

[jimmy olsen]

Weren't Eastern-Western marriages as far as the Levant happening, though?  Anna of Kiev and whatnot.

The range should be constrained by status. A King should have much greater range than a count.

EDIT: Just read that last update. I wonder how good Arab Camelry will be.

[Valmy]

I seem to recall that some of Harold Godwinson's family ended up in Russia as well.

Yes...after they went into exile to Denmark.  That is a pretty important detail there.

[Zanza]

The diplomatic range should be affected by culture. If my Scottish kingdom conquers Jerusalem during a crusade, it makes sense that there is still inter-marriage and diplomatic contact. Same with e.g. a Norse Sicily or Crimea or so.

[The Minsky Moment]

Anne of Kiev may have been an unusual marriage, but it had a pretty big impact on the naming of Capetian kings for the rest of Middle Ages.

[Zanza]

Holy Roman Emperor Otto II married the Byzantine princess Theophanu, who became regent of Germany after his premature death. Her son was named Otto though, which isn't as innovative as Anne of Kiev...

Looking at the wives of the Holy Roman Emperors, they should not be limited in marriage range I guess. They married English, Russian, Spanish, Greek, French etc. princesses.

[Valmy]

Looking at the wives of the Holy Roman Emperors, they should not be limited in marriage range I guess. They married English, Russian, Spanish, Greek, French etc. princesses.

The Byzantines were still in Italy at the time, nearly neighbors to the HRE.  I think this works fine for the HRE, none of those cultures are far from their borders.

[Queequeg]

Anne of Kiev may have been an unusual marriage, but it had a pretty big impact on the naming of Capetian kings for the rest of Middle Ages.

How so?