Crusader Kings 2 Redux

[Razgovory]

Piracy protection is useless. No matter how 'good' it is the pirates always crack it and people download the game if they feel like it anyway.

That's not really the point.  The point is to make it harder, not make it impossible.  You can't make home burglary impossible, but you can make it difficult.  Anyway, the problem I see with Steam, is the way Pdox handles patches.  I remember reading how difficult it was for players who bought steam to install beta patches and such.

[garbon]

That's not really the point.  The point is to make it harder, not make it impossible.  You can't make home burglary impossible, but you can make it difficult.

I don't think it is at all the same though. The chances of getting caught while pirating are much smaller and so if it just takes one more step that people can learn how to do by searching in google - many people will do it.

Also - closer to what I said about people legally purchasing games, suffering - I remember that I had a game that "needed" internet access to play when I didn't have internet at home. Instead, I had to download a crack so that I could play it sans internet. I had bought the copy legally in stores and still had to turn to shady activities in order to play something that I'd purchase. That ain't right.

[Josquius]

Piracy protection is useless. No matter how 'good' it is the pirates always crack it and people download the game if they feel like it anyway.

That's not really the point.  The point is to make it harder, not make it impossible.  You can't make home burglary impossible, but you can make it difficult.  Anyway, the problem I see with Steam, is the way Pdox handles patches.  I remember reading how difficult it was for players who bought steam to install beta patches and such.

Very few people do go to much of an effort to make burglary difficult however. Burglar alarms are present in only a small minority of homes, very few people put bars on their windows, home cctv and spiked fences are generally the domain of the crazies.
Most people don't bother with these measures as doing so would damage their quality of life in return for minimal reward- the risk of being burgled is already quite low and if a commited criminal who knows what he is doing really wants something in your house he can get it.

Were piracy a direct analogy for burglary then major anti-piracy efforts could be worthwhile. Very few people have the skills to crack a game...however by the very nature of piracy all it takes is one team to crack it then they can spread it to the masses.

[crazy canuck]

That steam would give them some presence. I don't really see the point of introducing piracy protections as they are ridiculous simple for pirates to get around and seem to only serve to induce lawful customers to commit unethical and/or illegal acts.

How does buying from steam induce a lawful costumer to commit and unethical or illegal act?

[garbon]

That steam would give them some presence. I don't really see the point of introducing piracy protections as they are ridiculous simple for pirates to get around and seem to only serve to induce lawful customers to commit unethical and/or illegal acts.

How does buying from steam induce a lawful costumer to commit and unethical or illegal act?

See the end of my last post.

[Razgovory]

Piracy protection is useless. No matter how 'good' it is the pirates always crack it and people download the game if they feel like it anyway.

That's not really the point.  The point is to make it harder, not make it impossible.  You can't make home burglary impossible, but you can make it difficult.  Anyway, the problem I see with Steam, is the way Pdox handles patches.  I remember reading how difficult it was for players who bought steam to install beta patches and such.

Very few people do go to much of an effort to make burglary difficult however. Burglar alarms are present in only a small minority of homes, very few people put bars on their windows, home cctv and spiked fences are generally the domain of the crazies.
Most people don't bother with these measures as doing so would damage their quality of life in return for minimal reward- the risk of being burgled is already quite low and if a commited criminal who knows what he is doing really wants something in your house he can get it.

Were piracy a direct analogy for burglary then major anti-piracy efforts could be worthwhile. Very few people have the skills to crack a game...however by the very nature of piracy all it takes is one team to crack it then they can spread it to the masses.

Most homes have locks.  A lock won't stop a determined burglar, but it may dissuade someone who doesn't know what they are doing.

[Josquius]

Reading http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?570304-The-Trials-of-Orabilia-MacDuib-A-Beta-AAR

The homosexual trait made me snigger "this character is a bit queer...."

[Kleves]

Here is, I shit you not, a live action trailer for CKII: http://www.gamespot.com/crusader-kings-ii/videos/live-action-crusaders-kings-ii-trailer-6346323

[Solmyr]

 

[Habbaku]

Alright, that was fairly amusing. 

[Viking]

Alright, that was fairly amusing. 

Winchester? More like Losechester!

[Barrister]

That was odd...

[Razgovory]

Damn.  I haven't seen a FMV for a game that wasn't a C&C title in a long time.

[Caliga]

Here is, I shit you not, a live action trailer for CKII: http://www.gamespot.com/crusader-kings-ii/videos/live-action-crusaders-kings-ii-trailer-6346323

Map sucks.  Also acting.

[Josquius]

....wow
They're trying to go mainstream?