Take-Out and tipping

[fhdz]

It's not the amounts involved that cause resentment, it's the fact that it's bribery.  The implied threat behind the tipping is the issue.  No one likes being threatened, even if the threats can be dealt with easily.

You've got to be joking.

[alfred russel]

I hardly think that wait staff are overpaid right now. And if we are either going to pay either in the form of a tip or through increased meal cost, we are better off paying through tips to keep our servers on their toes.

Since their employer is forced to make up the difference between their wage plus tips and the federal minimum wage, I don't see the point.

Of tipping? I expect that most waiters do much better than minimum wage, which is probably why you have a better grade of employee at decent restaurants than at McDonald's.

[alfred russel]

It's not the amounts involved that cause resentment, it's the fact that it's bribery.  The implied threat behind the tipping is the issue.  No one likes being threatened, even if the threats can be dealt with easily.

I guess it is a bribe, in the same way I have to bribe Target to give me a pair of socks. Target has a sign in the front that if I don't pay I will be prosecuted, whereas if I don't tip, a restaurant may turn away my business next time.

[vinraith]

It's not the amounts involved that cause resentment, it's the fact that it's bribery.  The implied threat behind the tipping is the issue.  No one likes being threatened, even if the threats can be dealt with easily.

I guess it is a bribe, in the same way I have to bribe Target to give me a pair of socks. Target has a sign in the front that if I don't pay I will be prosecuted, whereas if I don't tip, a restaurant may turn away my business next time.

He's talking about the tendency of some wait staff to... extract biological retribution against people that don't tip to their satisfaction.

[FunkMonk]

In which case, if I find out I've been the victim of Tipping Rage, I extract bloody vengeance by getting their ass fired.

[DontSayBanana]

Since their employer is forced to make up the difference between their wage plus tips and the federal minimum wage, I don't see the point.

Nobody's forced to come up with the difference between federal minimum wage and the cost of living for a given area, that's the point.

[vinraith]

In which case, if I find out I've been the victim of Tipping Rage, I extract bloody vengeance by getting their ass fired.

Of course, but then again if it were easy to detect these people would have been weeded out of the business a long time ago.

[alfred russel]

He's talking about the tendency of some wait staff to... extract biological retribution against people that don't tip to their satisfaction.

I'm sure there are people that spit in food because they don't like their tip, or because they don't like overweight people, minorities, blondes, or just being at work that day. Considering that the tip is usually given after the opportunity to spit has passed, I'd be much more concerned about a spitting incident for ordering something complicated that isn't on the menu.

[vinraith]

He's talking about the tendency of some wait staff to... extract biological retribution against people that don't tip to their satisfaction.

I'm sure there are people that spit in food because they don't like their tip, or because they don't like overweight people, minorities, blondes, or just being at work that day. Considering that the tip is usually given after the opportunity to spit has passed, I'd be much more concerned about a spitting incident for ordering something complicated that isn't on the menu.

Obviously this is principally an issue at places you frequent, not restaurants you encounter while traveling.

[alfred russel]

In which case, if I find out I've been the victim of Tipping Rage, I extract bloody vengeance by getting their ass fired.

Of course, but then again if it were easy to detect these people would have been weeded out of the business a long time ago.

Maybe they are. Excluding stories on television, neither a current nor former waiter/waitress has ever told me that he/she spit in someone's food.

[vinraith]

In which case, if I find out I've been the victim of Tipping Rage, I extract bloody vengeance by getting their ass fired.

Of course, but then again if it were easy to detect these people would have been weeded out of the business a long time ago.

Maybe they are. Excluding stories on television, neither a current nor former waiter/waitress has ever told me that he/she spit in someone's food.

I don't claim to know one way or another about the issue, I'm just clarifying that it's what DG is talking about when he refers to "bribery."

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

Of tipping? I expect that most waiters do much better than minimum wage, which is probably why you have a better grade of employee at decent restaurants than at McDonald's.

No, I don't see the point of expecting a certain percentage almost regardless of service.

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

Since their employer is forced to make up the difference between their wage plus tips and the federal minimum wage, I don't see the point.

Nobody's forced to come up with the difference between federal minimum wage and the cost of living for a given area, that's the point.

That's true of any job.

[jimmy olsen]

In which case, if I find out I've been the victim of Tipping Rage, I extract bloody vengeance by getting their ass fired.

Of course, but then again if it were easy to detect these people would have been weeded out of the business a long time ago.

Maybe they are. Excluding stories on television, neither a current nor former waiter/waitress has ever told me that he/she spit in someone's food.

I worked in a McDonalds for 5-6 months when I was a 17 and I never saw anything like that.

[Fireblade]

This is why I don't patronize Sonic.

Lol, I've never tipped the Sonic carhops.

Unless I was drunk and the girl is hot.