Sex-changing treatment for kids: It's on the rise

Started by garbon, February 23, 2012, 04:56:06 PM

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garbon

I thought this was an interesting piece.

http://news.yahoo.com/sex-changing-treatment-kids-rise-050220027.html

QuoteA small but growing number of teens and even younger children who think they were born the wrong sex are getting support from parents and from doctors who give them sex-changing treatments, according to reports in the medical journal Pediatrics.

It's an issue that raises ethical questions, and some experts urge caution in treating children with puberty-blocking drugs and hormones.

An 8-year-old second-grader in Los Angeles is a typical patient. Born a girl, the child announced at 18 months, "I a boy" and has stuck with that belief. The family was shocked but now refers to the child as a boy and is watching for the first signs of puberty to begin treatment, his mother told The Associated Press.

Pediatricians need to know these kids exist and deserve treatment, said Dr. Norman Spack, author of one of three reports published Monday and director of one of the nation's first gender identity medical clinics, at Children's Hospital Boston.

"If you open the doors, these are the kids who come. They're out there. They're in your practices," Spack said in an interview.

Switching gender roles and occasionally pretending to be the opposite sex is common in young children. But these kids are different. They feel certain they were born with the wrong bodies.

Some are labeled with "gender identity disorder," a psychiatric diagnosis. But Spack is among doctors who think that's a misnomer. Emerging research suggests they may have brain differences more similar to the opposite sex.

Spack said by some estimates, 1 in 10,000 children have the condition.

Offering sex-changing treatment to kids younger than 18 raises ethical concerns, and their parents' motives need to be closely examined, said Dr. Margaret Moon, a member of the American Academy of Pediatrics' bioethics committee. She was not involved in any of the reports.

Some kids may get a psychiatric diagnosis when they are just hugely uncomfortable with narrowly defined gender roles; or some may be gay and are coerced into treatment by parents more comfortable with a sex change than having a homosexual child, said Moon, who teaches at the Johns Hopkins Berman Institute of Bioethics.

It's harmful "to have an irreversible treatment too early," Moon said.

Doctors who provide the treatment say withholding it would be more harmful.

These children sometimes resort to self-mutilation to try to change their anatomy; the other two journal reports note that some face verbal and physical abuse and are prone to stress, depression and suicide attempts. Spack said those problems typically disappear in kids who've had treatment and are allowed to live as the opposite sex.

Guidelines from the Endocrine Society endorse transgender hormone treatment but say it should not be given before puberty begins. At that point, the guidelines recommend puberty-blocking drugs until age 16, then lifelong sex-changing hormones with monitoring for potential health risks. Mental health professionals should be involved in the process, the guidelines say. The group's members are doctors who treat hormonal conditions.

Those guidelines, along with YouTube videos by sex-changing teens and other media attention, have helped raise awareness about treatment and led more families to seek help, Spack said.

His report details a fourfold increase in patients at the Boston hospital. His Gender Management Service clinic, which opened at the hospital in 2007, averages about 19 patients each year, compared with about four per year treated for gender issues at the hospital in the late 1990s.

The report details 97 girls and boys treated between 1998 and 2010; the youngest was 4 years old. Kids that young and their families get psychological counseling and are monitored until the first signs of puberty emerge, usually around age 11 or 12. Then children are given puberty-blocking drugs, in monthly $1,000 injections or implants imbedded in the arm.

In another Pediatrics report, a Texas doctor says he's also provided sex-changing treatment to an increasing number of children; so has a clinic at Children's Hospital Los Angeles where the 8-year-old is a patient.

The drugs used by the clinics are approved for delaying puberty in kids who start maturing too soon. The drugs' effects are reversible, and Spack said they've caused no complications in his patients. The idea is to give these children time to mature emotionally and make sure they want to proceed with a permanent sex change. Only 1 of the 97 opted out of permanent treatment, Spack said.

Kids will more easily pass as the opposite gender, and require less drastic treatment later, if drug treatment starts early, Spack said. For example, boys switching to girls will develop breasts and girls transitioning to boys will be flat-chested if puberty is blocked and sex-hormones started soon enough, Spack said.

Sex hormones, especially in high doses when used long-term, can have serious side effects, including blood clots and cancer. Spack said he uses low, safer doses but that patients should be monitored.

Gender-reassignment surgery, which may include removing or creating penises, is only done by a handful of U.S. doctors, on patients at least 18 years old, Spack said. His clinic has worked with local surgeons who've done breast removal surgery on girls at age 16, but that surgery can be relatively minor, or avoided, if puberty is halted in time, he said.

The mother of the Los Angeles 8-year-old says he's eager to begin treatment.

When the child was told he could get shots to block breast development, "he was so excited," the mother said.

He also knows he'll eventually be taking testosterone shots for life but surgery right now is uncertain.

The child attends a public school where classmates don't know he is biologically a girl. For that reason, his mother requested anonymity.

She said she explained about having a girl's anatomy but he rejected that, refused to wear dresses, and has insisted on using a boy's name since preschool.

The mother first thought it was a phase, then that her child might be a lesbian, and sought a therapist's help to confirm her suspicion. That's when she first heard the term "gender identity disorder" and learned it's often not something kids outgrow.

Accepting his identity has been difficult for both parents, the woman said. Private schools refused to enroll him as a boy, and the family's pediatrician refused to go along with their request to treat him like a boy. They found a physician who would, Dr. Jo Olson, medical director of a transgender clinic at Children's Hospital Los Angeles.

Olson said the journal reports should help persuade more doctors to offer these kids sex-changing treatment or refer them to specialists who will.

"It would be so nice to move this out of the world of mental health, and into the medical world," Olson said.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Ideologue

Quoteand are coerced into treatment by parents more comfortable with a sex change than having a homosexual child, said Moon, who teaches at the Johns Hopkins Berman Institute of Bioethics.

I always love this reaction.  It's like being uncomfortable with your kid driving your car, so you buy him a motorcycle--letting your kid drive your car, like letting your kid be gay, has upfront costs $0 and is far less likely to involve surgery.

QuoteIt would be so nice to move this out of the world of mental health, and into the medical world

Lol, nice backhand.

Anyway, this is basically a good thing.  GID is preposterously easier to fix the younger it's diagnosed.
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Martinus


garbon

Quote from: Ideologue on February 23, 2012, 05:07:49 PM
Anyway, this is basically a good thing.  GID is preposterously easier to fix the younger it's diagnosed.

My only issue is that I simply don't really understand the condition

That said - the spectre of parents forcing their kids to have this done to them seems just that. I doubt there are many people who want to shell out to change their kid's gender.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Ideologue

Quote from: garbon on February 23, 2012, 05:35:39 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on February 23, 2012, 05:07:49 PM
Anyway, this is basically a good thing.  GID is preposterously easier to fix the younger it's diagnosed.

My only issue is that I simply don't really understand the condition

What's to get?  If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

QuoteThat said - the spectre of parents forcing their kids to have this done to them seems just that. I doubt there are many people who want to shell out to change their kid's gender.

I think that might have been journalism code for non-Westerners.  They seem to have a far easier time with gender dysphoria than homosexuality.

Quote from: MartinusMost people shouldn't have kids. Film at 11.

Martinus probably didn't even read the article.  A major motion picture soon to be appearing in theaters near you.

Seriously, are you basing that on anything other than the "no daughter of mine's gonna be a gayboy" crowd,?
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garbon

Quote from: Ideologue on February 23, 2012, 05:42:35 PM
What's to get?  If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

I tend to think of gender as so fluid that I can't really see my parts preventing me from living however I feel like. After all, I could get breasts and a sculpted uterus but wouldn't be able to bear children.  I know it's not open-minded but I always wonder if people just get too bogged down by the biological parts.  Especially during childhood when biology is destiny.  So that's where I lack understanding.

QuoteI think that might have been journalism code for non-Westerners.  They seem to have a far easier time with gender dysphoria than homosexuality.

I don't see that though. I think transpeople get it worse than homosexuals if only because they often get treated poorly by homosexuals as well. Adding us all in an LGBT alphabet soup doesn't mean that we get along.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Ideologue

I dunno, dude.  There is Iran.  I think it's how they roll in Pakistan and much of India, too.

And yeah, for a lot of gay dudes it's GGGG.  But that makes sense, since being transgender and being gay are totally different things (and one need not be the latter to be the former; iirc, I want to think I read somewhere that a majority of transwomen still prefer chicks).
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Martinus

Quote from: Ideologue on February 23, 2012, 05:42:35 PM
Martinus probably didn't even read the article.  A major motion picture soon to be appearing in theaters near you.

Seriously, are you basing that on anything other than the "no daughter of mine's gonna be a gayboy" crowd,?

No, I'm basing this on my general experience with humankind. And no, I haven't read the article. :P

Martinus

Quote from: garbon on February 23, 2012, 09:34:52 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on February 23, 2012, 05:42:35 PM
What's to get?  If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

I tend to think of gender as so fluid that I can't really see my parts preventing me from living however I feel like. After all, I could get breasts and a sculpted uterus but wouldn't be able to bear children.  I know it's not open-minded but I always wonder if people just get too bogged down by the biological parts.  Especially during childhood when biology is destiny.  So that's where I lack understanding.

QuoteI think that might have been journalism code for non-Westerners.  They seem to have a far easier time with gender dysphoria than homosexuality.

I don't see that though. I think transpeople get it worse than homosexuals if only because they often get treated poorly by homosexuals as well. Adding us all in an LGBT alphabet soup doesn't mean that we get along.

You are wrong. Iran and other Arabic countries have state-sponsored sex change operations. In fact, I read that in Iran some gay couples decide to have a sex change (one of the guys, that is) so they can live together without a fear of punishment.

Likewise, the official doctrine of catholic church is that homosexuality is a no-no but sex change is fine, as well.

Martinus

Quote from: garbon on February 23, 2012, 09:34:52 PM
Adding us all in an LGBT alphabet soup doesn't mean that we get along.

I don't really think it even makes sense to have T in GLBT. Gays, lesbians and bisexual people have, ultimately, the same common denominator, and they have similar problems, goals, issues etc. This is not at all true for transgendered people, not to mention I think it confuses the hell out of the general public, because these goals are so different, they are often almost opposite.

Having T in GLBT makes about as much sense as if you were starting an organization to defend "people of color" and included vegetarians and eco-enthusiasts in the group, because they are "green".

Not to mention, to me there is a gulf of difference between "wanting to suck another guy's dick" and "wanting to have your dick chopped off".

Martinus

I mean, the GLB thing is pretty much dealt with by the "consenting adults" principle. There isn't really much more to that.

Now, the T thing is much more complex. We do not, as a rule, allow people to inflict grievous and irreversible bodily harm on themselves, or at least it's something that calls for serious weighing of personal freedom vs. self-harm. If someone wanted to gouge their eyes out because he thinks there are demons in his head, we wouldn't allow it, for example.

Same with legal recognition of sex change. If someone wanted to have claws installed in their fingers and had their face modified so that it looks like that of a cat (like the NY cat lady did), it doesn't automatically give such person a right to legally have their species changed to "cat".

Now, I am not saying that transgendered people shouldn't get their rights and be allowed to legally and medically change their sex, but it is not such a no-brainer and is based on completely different principles than the one about gay people allowing to have sex with members of the same sex.

Josquius

I'm against it.
You wouldn't let a kid have a tattoo and this is a hell of a lot bigger change than that.
Even amongst adults there's a shockingly high rate of transexuals who regret their change and all sorts of mental health issues assosiated with it. With kids.....
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garbon

Quote from: Martinus on February 24, 2012, 02:20:41 AM
Quote from: garbon on February 23, 2012, 09:34:52 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on February 23, 2012, 05:42:35 PM
What's to get?  If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

I tend to think of gender as so fluid that I can't really see my parts preventing me from living however I feel like. After all, I could get breasts and a sculpted uterus but wouldn't be able to bear children.  I know it's not open-minded but I always wonder if people just get too bogged down by the biological parts.  Especially during childhood when biology is destiny.  So that's where I lack understanding.

QuoteI think that might have been journalism code for non-Westerners.  They seem to have a far easier time with gender dysphoria than homosexuality.

I don't see that though. I think transpeople get it worse than homosexuals if only because they often get treated poorly by homosexuals as well. Adding us all in an LGBT alphabet soup doesn't mean that we get along.

You are wrong. Iran and other Arabic countries have state-sponsored sex change operations. In fact, I read that in Iran some gay couples decide to have a sex change (one of the guys, that is) so they can live together without a fear of punishment.

Likewise, the official doctrine of catholic church is that homosexuality is a no-no but sex change is fine, as well.

I don't actually think I'm wrong. Article seems to be about the US.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.