82 percent of US schools may be labeled 'failing'

Started by jimmy olsen, March 10, 2011, 04:25:53 AM

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grumbler

Quote from: Slargos on March 10, 2011, 11:55:58 AM
Since no one is going to mention the elephant as usual, I'm going to go ahead and say it:

This is what you get when you integrate the Negro Community into your schools.
:huh:  Uh, okay, Crunchy.  Whatever you say.  You are seeing elephants of what color?
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Slargos

Quote from: grumbler on March 10, 2011, 02:25:46 PM
Quote from: Slargos on March 10, 2011, 11:55:58 AM
Since no one is going to mention the elephant as usual, I'm going to go ahead and say it:

This is what you get when you integrate the Negro Community into your schools.
:huh:  Uh, okay, Crunchy.  Whatever you say.  You are seeing elephants of what color?

It's a figure of speech. You will be unfamiliar with this concept, and I doubt it is possible to possess the eloquence to explain it to you. Go back to your den, you freak of nature.

grumbler

Quote from: derspiess on March 10, 2011, 11:54:31 AM
Seems like you implied it.  Either that or you posted your response to the wrong person.
No, I didn't imply that this was your position, but I may have mocked your simplistic approach to a complex problem.
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grumbler

Quote from: Slargos on March 10, 2011, 02:36:02 PM
It's a figure of speech. You will be unfamiliar with this concept, and I doubt it is possible to possess the eloquence to explain it to you. Go back to your den, you freak of nature.
Which is the figure of speech:  the "elephant", the "Negro community," or "you"?

I am aware that you lack the both the wits and the language skills to explain yourself.  My questions to you are to mock your positions, not to try to extract a series of grunts that is somehow actually intelligible to the rest of us.

In other words, I know it is a schtick, so am playing along.
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The Brain

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Quote from: The Brain on March 10, 2011, 03:06:57 PM
There is no elephant in the room. Believe me I have looked for it.
They often hide under couch cushions, looking for loose change... sneaky critters.

garbon

Quote from: Slargos on March 10, 2011, 11:55:58 AM
Since no one is going to mention the elephant as usual, I'm going to go ahead and say it:

This is what you get when you integrate the Negro Community into your schools.

When do you think schools were integrated? The 2000s? :tinfoil:
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derspiess

Quote from: grumbler on March 10, 2011, 03:00:26 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 10, 2011, 11:54:31 AM
Seems like you implied it.  Either that or you posted your response to the wrong person.
No, I didn't imply that this was your position, but I may have mocked your simplistic approach to a complex problem.

What do you want-- a position paper?
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Slargos

Quote from: grumbler on March 10, 2011, 03:03:59 PM
Quote from: Slargos on March 10, 2011, 02:36:02 PM
It's a figure of speech. You will be unfamiliar with this concept, and I doubt it is possible to possess the eloquence to explain it to you. Go back to your den, you freak of nature.
Which is the figure of speech:  the "elephant", the "Negro community," or "you"?

I am aware that you lack the both the wits and the language skills to explain yourself.  My questions to you are to mock your positions, not to try to extract a series of grunts that is somehow actually intelligible to the rest of us.

In other words, I know it is a schtick, so am playing along.

The only way to win is not to play.

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Slargos

Hey, Statistics don't lie. At least not more than 38% of the time.


dps

If 82% of American schools are labelled as failing, the other 18% must be mis-labelled.

OK, that's not literally true, but I suspect that less than 18% of our schools are truly doing a good job educating their students.  OTOH, I think that for the most part, the reason many students fail to learn what the schools are supposed to be teaching them is that the students don't want to learn, and their parents don't care enough to make sure that they do.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: dps on March 10, 2011, 07:15:16 PM
If 82% of American schools are labelled as failing, the other 18% must be mis-labelled.

OK, that's not literally true, but I suspect that less than 18% of our schools are truly doing a good job educating their students.  OTOH, I think that for the most part, the reason many students fail to learn what the schools are supposed to be teaching them is that the students don't want to learn, and their parents don't care enough to make sure that they do.
I think it just means that 18% of schools have 100% of their students meeting the No Child Left Behind standards.  I.e., not necessarily Mensa material.

Razgovory

Quote from: Slargos on March 10, 2011, 11:55:58 AM
Since no one is going to mention the elephant as usual, I'm going to go ahead and say it:

This is what you get when you integrate the Negro Community into your schools.

Yes, but we only have so many Negroes.  It's not practical to bus smart African American students all the way to cousin fucking towns in Alaska or Montana.  They are already carrying 18% of the schools (despite being only 10% of the public).  I don't think it's fair to ask that much more from them.
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derspiess

Could we just pick a number for the % of kids we're okay with being left behind?  Schools in my local district are hitting about 95% proficiency overall, and I think that is about as good as you're gonna get without cooking the books somehow.

Education is one case where I seriously wish we were more like Europe.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall