Hungarian Politics

[celedhring]

Loved the Nobel prize winner going all "thank you and fuck you" after Orbán congratulated him.

His work sounds mightily interesting, too. Now that he's got the Nobel it will be easier to get ahold of some decent translation.

[Syt]

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Belgium may still have some bridges left that connect to nothing. Maybe there are opportunities here...

[Valmy]

Kind of impressed they built such a large piece of useless infrastructure for so little money. We would have used 1.3 million in the planning stage for the useless road.

[Tamas]

Anniversary of the start of the 1956 revolution today, Orban and Magyar each had a big rally. Orban's did not seem at all impressive considering the state-wide effort to make people go there.

But, what I have found interesting are the swirling ironies between the two speeches.

Orban was calling on young people to learn from the revolution's example and step up - plus a few other comments which seemed to ignore that he is the long-established incumbent power, being a close ally to the very power the revolution revolted against.

Magyar, showing his roots as a young Orban fanboy, referenced Orban's 1989 speech sending the Russians home and mourning the (then) young generation's future and calling for determined resistance. Magyar basically highlighted that these are relevant today, against Orban himself.

The irony Magyar missed, I think, is that what he showed that in 1989 Orban was him. The question begs itself: 30 years from now, will he be the Orban of today? (answer: likely yes).

[Josquius]

Image of the size of the protest today

https://bsky.app/profile/almodozo.bsky.social/post/3m3uodwainc2z

[Valmy]

The irony Magyar missed, I think, is that what he showed that in 1989 Orban was him. The question begs itself: 30 years from now, will he be the Orban of today? (answer: likely yes).

Yep. There is just a hope that he will be less pro-Russian.

[Tamas]

So one news is that Orban just visited Trump and got full exemption from American sanctions on Russian oil.

A much graver news concerns internal politics. Peter Magyar's party (Tisza) launched a mobile app not too long ago to share news etc but also they wanted to utilise this to elect their MP candidates.

A week or so ago pro-government press broke the news that this app has been hacked and over 200 thousand people's personal data (name, address, date of birth) has been leaked. Several pro-government "media" started harassing people on the list. Not just public personas but regular people.

And today somebody launched a searchable online database with an interactive map (and it got reported and linked by all the major pro-government online news sites) so if you want to see who from your village/town registered on the Tisza app, you can do so.

In a semi-feudal system like Hungary this can have grave consequences for people. The poorer they are the less they can afford to be seen as anti-Fidesz by the local lord (mayor, employers).

And the election will be in April. Things will turn ugly.

[Valmy]

This is our future if we don't crush Trumpism yesterday. We are all going to be supporting some incompetent right wing nut as the lesser of two evils. Ben Shapiro for president we will be saying, got to stop the 5th term of President Vance.