And we're back!
Started by Tamas, March 09, 2011, 01:25:14 PM
Quote from: Liep on March 30, 2011, 06:20:35 AMI will be going to Budapest in about two weeks.. will I be: safe?
Quote from: Tamas on March 30, 2011, 06:35:08 AMQuote from: Liep on March 30, 2011, 06:20:35 AMI will be going to Budapest in about two weeks.. will I be: safe? Sure. I dont expect riots to begin for several years at least
Quote from: Tamas on March 30, 2011, 06:06:06 AMand favourize the historical religions
Quote from: Syt on March 31, 2011, 10:23:18 AMLike Islam?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."
Quote from: Syt on March 31, 2011, 10:23:18 AMQuote from: Tamas on March 30, 2011, 06:06:06 AMand favourize the historical religions Like Islam?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 04, 2011, 11:47:24 AMIs there some transition date in the future, when your payout wll be determined solely by your 10% contribution?I ask because there are presumably current retirees who are getting more; otherwise there would be nothing for the 24% to finance.
Quote from: Tamas on July 04, 2011, 08:45:03 AMThere are two kinds of payments into the pension system in Hungary.10% goes off your nominal wage. And your employer also pays 24% of your nominal wage (but not deducting this from it - in practice, little difference it makes of course. It still counts to the money you cost to your employer, yet you never see a dime from it).Before this year, the 10% went to your private fund, the 24% went to the state fund, and you would have received pension from both.At the very start of this year, the little more the active workforce of 3 million people, including me, faced the government's threat: you either go back to the state pension entirely, or if you stay private, you would still have your employer pay the 24%, but you would not receive the right for a state pension payment for it.Only a hundred thousand of us called the obvious bluff and stayed. It was obvious because the present pension system has been an enormous strain on the state, on the long run it was bound to change.Altough not yet voted on, the plan for this change has been leaked:Instead of sinking your 10%+24% into the black void of the gross pension budget, everyone will get an individual account (you already had that on your private fund account, obviously). But, only the payments of the 10% will be registered there. The 24% will go to financing of the existing pensions, or whatever the rap is.And your pension will be determined by the amount of money on this account, and your age and stuff.In other words, it will be EXACTLY the setup they threatened us with, EXCEPT that there is no talk of interest, like you had with your private fund account (and it was pretty sweet, too).What can I say to the 3 million poor bastards who were bullied into folding their hand?
Quote from: alfred russel on July 04, 2011, 03:40:35 PMWhy is the pension system so stretched? In the US, the taxes are something like 6.2% by the employee and 6.2% by the employer. I'm guessing the benefits are relatively generous relative to what you paid in?I'm also not sure why you won't get a state pension. If your 24% are going to the current retirees, when you retire couldn't you draw on the 24% being paid by current workers?
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