Hungarian Politics

[Tamas]

Also there are rumblings over cheating in the elections. For sure, there are several weird cases and happenings, but the reality is that they have scored a too overwhelming victory for it to be a full-blown cheat.

I mean, apart from the whole election system of course. Like how the law uses the list-votes cast on parties that didn't make it past the entry barrier, to strengthen the overall victor of the election.




Oh and needless to say, while migrants fearmongering news dominated all pro-government media (this means media owned by oligarchs raised by Orban, plus state TV) up until Sunday evening, all migrant news have DISAPPEARED from all of them overnight. I guess the campaign is over.





But this is all academic whining at this stage. The country is fucked.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Did you (and others like you) get to vote in this election?

[Tamas]

Did you (and others like you) get to vote in this election?

I didn't but there was a way: register in advance and come from everywhere in the UK to the consulate in London. Lots of people queued for hours upon hours. It did exactly as much good as I expected it would.

[Tamas]

Welll...

There has been a lot of reports of oddities in voting districts, but I dismissed most of those as  minor things, or local overenthusiastic Party members doing minor cheats.

But it really is piling up. Mainly this: it would be quite easy to confirm the reported anomalies are just coincidences, if one could use the detailed features of the election database online, to compare stuff.
Unfortunately, there was a "server error" during the late hours of the voting day on Sunday, and the full system remains offline, only offering basic data, until "at least the weekend".
Meanwhile, the Socialists wanted to use their delegate in the main election authority to get hold of the copies of the paper-based logs of the problematic districts, but again, luck is against them: the scans of those will also not be available until the end of the week.

[Josquius]

John Oliver did a fun bit on all the easy money floating around with the election.

[Tamas]

Remember Orban's declaration from a few weeks back that I wrote about? The one on knowing exactly who the 2000 "Soros mercenaries" are in Hungary?

One of the rabidly pro-Fidesz newspapers today went really enthusiastic and made a list of people they assume to be on it. Opposition figures, journalists, NGO leaders, of course.

Near the end of the article they do explain though that the list is probably not complete of course since it is hard to see sometimes who you are really working for and some people may not be able what goals and master they truly serve.

BTW this newspaper in question is half owned by a politician in an opposition party, the greens (LMP). He happens to be the son of one of the government's ideologues, the lady who thought it was a great idea to invite Marty's idol whatshisname Greek guy to an event last year.
Just so you know what our "opposition" is made of.

[Tamas]

Oh, my second favourite line from the article listed Demszky the previous  and long-serving (liberal) mayor of Budapest, noting that "while he clearly is not an active agent presently, he had to be listed".


You really have to go back to the early 50s to find stuff to draw parallels with shit like this. And the anti-Jewish crap in the 30s and 40s, of course.

[Tamas]

Another person on the list of "confirmed Soros agents" is a fanatical Fidesz-voter lady, who has been a teacher at the Central European University that Fidesz wanted to shut down last year (and right now is forcing to relocate to Vienna).

At the time she wrote on Facebook that she always voted Fidesz but this is too much for her. The post gained countrywide infamy for her, as many people felt (like me) that it is not so attractive that she was quite alright with a lot of other  people losing their jobs thanks to Fidesz, as long as it wasn't hers.

But apparently, this was enough to make her an enemy agent. 

[Tamas]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/13/hungary-journalists-state-tv-network-migrants-viktor-orban-government

[Tamas]

There's a big demonstration planned for tomorrow to protest the result and the countless "mistakes" made during the election in the various districts that somehow all ended up hurting opposition votes.

The pro-government's press, including state TV, is in full-fledged Goebbels mode over it. Soros-hooligans, criminals, "evidence" of recruiting trouble makers from abroad... It is straight out of stories you read about the Nazi and Communist regimes.

Everything has been proving me right in my conclusion 4 years ago to move abroad. I knew this was coming. But seeing it unfold breaks my heart. 

[The Minsky Moment]

The real insult is to the Rothschilds.  They invested centuries of family effort into being the center of the Jewish Banking Conspiracy, only to be usurped by this upstart Soros.

[crazy canuck]

The first generation creates the world wide banking conspiracy, the second generation maintains it and then the third generation...

[Tamas]

https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/viktor-orbans-lifelong-friend-became-a-billionaire-through-winning-state-contracts/5acf9fe9f1cdb31f4c1f8811

[Tamas]

Election system well explained in English by a (American?) researcher lady:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O5__vfWpds

It was filmed before the election and she quite correctly pointed out that it's already fixed and it's delusional to expect any other result than what happened.

Interview was made by Budapest Beacon and English language newspaper that closed down about a week ago.

[Valmy]

It got two thousand views eh? Sounds like the word is spreading