Hungarian Politics

[Archy]

Just read a story in  local paper over here. That the number of Flemish people moving to Hungary tripled.
Because they want to stay a way from the refugees and are afraid of attacks.
So mostly Vlaams Belang (Xenophobic Right) types.

Other bonusses are:
-Pensions aren't taxed
-Way cheaper as here

So Hungary is becoming the new Benidorm congratz.
I'm sorry to the Spaniards  that they loose this important demographic

[Duque de Bragança]

So Hungary is becoming the new Benidorm congratz.
I'm sorry to the Spaniards  that they loose this important demographic

Don't worry for the Spaniards, the chavs in Benidorm will keep them busy. 

[The Larch]

Just read a story in  local paper over here. That the number of Flemish people moving to Hungary tripled.
Because they want to stay a way from the refugees and are afraid of attacks.
So mostly Vlaams Belang (Xenophobic Right) types.

Other bonusses are:
-Pensions aren't taxed
-Way cheaper as here

So Hungary is becoming the new Benidorm congratz.
I'm sorry to the Spaniards  that they loose this important demographic

We can do without a bunch of paranoid racists, thanks. Good riddance.

Anyway, I guess that going from one dude to three, while still tripling the stats, is not really significant int he big picture. 

[celedhring]

I'm coming to a mind of allowing free migration to few selected reactionary hellholes to keep the deplorables cordoned off and contained in the kind of medieval society they are so eager to build, granting the Tamases of those places refugee status in compensation.

We can even pay for the wall this time.

[Tamas]

Just read a story in  local paper over here. That the number of Flemish people moving to Hungary tripled.
Because they want to stay a way from the refugees and are afraid of attacks.
So mostly Vlaams Belang (Xenophobic Right) types.

Other bonusses are:
-Pensions aren't taxed
-Way cheaper as here

So Hungary is becoming the new Benidorm congratz.
I'm sorry to the Spaniards  that they loose this important demographic

IIRC there was some German TV station that did a big deal out of a similar "movement" from Germany to Hungary, and then when people investigated it turned out to be only the two persons who got interviewed by the TV.

[Archy]

to be honest they probably  came first  in the seventies to Spain to enjoy the reign of El generalissimo 

My guess is that it tripled from 10 to 30 or such numbers.

[The Larch]

The irony that that kind of dudes go retire to a foreign country is delightful. Also, who in their sane mind would retire to Hungary, of all places?

[Tamas]

Orban shows off his the local football academy's and village mayor's vast lands from atop the stadium standing on his backyard the land of the local football academy.

To whom? One of the most prominent Turkish businessman and Erdogan supporter, Adnan Polat.
The were all friendly already during Orban's visit to Turkey in 2013, although back then it was denied they met (photos are fake news I guess). This was a "private program" of the PM so this visit has not been official confirmed either.

[Syt]

Austrian media reports that the Hungarian food watchdog agency has compared various food items between Hungary and Austria and found that Hungarians receive products of inferior quality:
- Nutella is not as creamy in Hungary
- Coca-Cola is less tasty and more "flat"
- Nestlé cocoa powder in Austria is "more harmonious and intense"
- in Austria, a spaghetti box contained 3 different cheese sauce ingredients, in Hungary none

They say they want to compare 100 products that are sold in Hungary and other countries in order to ensure Hungarian customers are treated fairly.

Part of this is surely to complain about foreign supermarket chains in the Hungarian market.

[Syt]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39429309

Hungary university backed by Soros 'is facing closure'

Students and staff at the Central European University (CEU) in Hungary are protesting against what they say are government plans to close it down.

The university says new legislation proposed by the right-wing Fidesz government on Tuesday night makes it impossible for it to function.

The CEU's founder, philanthropist George Soros, has a strained relationship with the PM Viktor Orban.

But the government says it supports the university and does not want it to go.

Education Secretary Laszlo Palkovics said the proposed legislation followed a review of 28 foreign universities operating in Hungary, including the CEU in Budapest.

"This is not an anti-CEU investigation and not against Mr Soros," he said.

The Hungary-born billionaire founded the university in 1991 and continues to fund it.

He wanted the CEU to be a bastion of liberal thought and promote the values of an open society and democracy.

But the university appears to have become the latest target in a campaign by Prime Minister Viktor Orban's government against liberal values.

The government says the CEU and other foreign-funded universities are operating outside the law, and that the new legislation aims to create a new legal footing.

The CEU, established and registered in New York State, is an independent, private university for masters and PhD students from more than 100 countries.

If approved by parliament, the law would mean the university can only continue working if an intergovernmental agreement between US President Donald Trump and Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban is signed, and if the university establishes a campus in the US by February next year.

The first is unlikely - both Mr Trump and Mr Orban are sworn enemies of Mr Soros. The second is physically impossible.

Twenty-seven other foreign universities will be affected by the legislation, Education Secretary Laszlo Palkovics told the BBC, and all must abide by the new law.

Only the CEU has no campus in its home country, the US.

But CEU Rector Michael Ignatieff says the university is fully legal and the new law has been designed to disable it.

"We will defend our achievements vigorously against anyone who seeks to defame our work in the eyes of the Hungarian people," he said.

The new rules would force the CEU to change its name, set up a campus in New York, change its curriculum and become subservient to both the US and Hungarian governments.

Protesting staff and students are now seeking the support of other universities, both in Hungary and worldwide.

It comes at a time of deteriorating relations between US President Donald Trump and Mr Soros, who recently described the new occupant of the White House as "an imposter, a [political] conman and a would-be dictator".

Relations between Mr Soros and Mr Orban - a keen supporter of the US president - also became strained when Mr Orban accused him of wanting a role in Hungarian politics and supporting the influx of migrants into Europe.

Mr Orban recently claimed Hungary was "under siege" from asylum seekers.

The prime minister won a scholarship sponsored by Mr Soros to study at Oxford university and the pair were allies in the days immediately following the fall of communism.
But with the two now at loggerheads, NGOs partially funded by Mr Soros' Open Society Foundation are under pressure to close in Hungary.

The Central European University
- Founded to "resuscitate and revive intellectual freedom" in parts of Europe that had endured the "horrific ideologies" of communism and fascism
- Occupies a building that began as an aristocrat's palace before becoming state-owned offices for a planned socialist economy
- Has 1,440 students - 335 from Hungary and the rest from 107 other countries
- Presents itself as a champion of free speech, with links to universities in Russia, Kyrgyzstan, Georgia and Kazakhstan

[Crazy_Ivan80]

So mostly Vlaams Belang (Xenophobic Right) types.

don't worry: we get xenophobic islamists in their place: by the boatload.

[Tamas]

I hope CEU will just pack up and leave - I think the real danger is that the usual Orbanesque tactic is going to be used against them: the government opened with this outrageous new bill that would mean closure. There will be negotiations, promises made, and then CEU will be neutered, compromised, ran down, and then the government will break its promise and get rid of them anyways in a few years.

It is far from impossible, however, that all they want is to pick a fight with the "liberal elite" - elections are coming next year and their fences have actually stopped migrants, so they are gearing up for a fight against Brussels since they need SOME enemy to fight (there will be giant posters around the country saying "We need to stop Brussels!"). Only problem is, there is no fight to fight, yet.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

that fence must have been about the only thing he got right since the start of his reign. The Balkan states probably saved the EU from a lot of misery.

[Tamas]

One of the main guys of the Christian Democrats (a make-believe party nominally in coalition with Fidesz but totally their proxy - they don't even register on party polls) declared CEU to be the "officers school" of an "international army" with an "international agenda".

Also, Orban "noticed nerves are short" over the CEU issue, so he had Parliament make the bill come into effect quicker than default - it will be law from tomorrow.

[Tamas]

Also, Orban "noticed nerves are short" over the CEU issue, so he had Parliament make the bill come into effect quicker than default - it will be law from tomorrow.

And it seems at the last moment they have extended it just in case: the "casus belli" for this law is the suddenly unacceptable practice of offering not just a Hungarian diploma but also a foreign one. In CEU's case, American.

The original bill had some pretty hard new requirements for this, among others, a state-level agreement between Hungary and the country for which the other diploma is issued.
The last moment they have changed this, allegedly, so now the laws says that in cases where the other country is a federal one, like the US, the federal government must sign an agreement with the Hungarian government for the continued existence of the university.

Which is, as I have read, is a very foolproof "GTFO, foreign uni!" rule, as the US government can't make such education decisions on the federal level.