Hungarian Politics

[Tamas]

Meanwhile, today Orban is busy bending down for the president of Azerbaijan, who is visiting Budapest.

[Martinus]

The Italian company owning 66% of the Slovakian energy company (which in turn owns their nuclear power plant and their hydro plant), is selling its share.

One of the interested parties is... Hungary. The state-owned company handling state assets, to be precise. Together with MOL the Hungarian oil company, which is under heavy state influence (and its CEO owes a big one to Orban, because he protected him from being sent to jail in Croatia).

A huge question of course is: where the fuck are we getting the 2 billion euros needed for this deal? Surely not from the budget. So based on recent happenings, the conclusion is self-evident, really: we are the strawman for the Russians buying up energy production in Slovakia.

Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but a lot of investors who buy assets do it with borrowed money. Perhaps Hungary intends to do the same.

[Tamas]

The Italian company owning 66% of the Slovakian energy company (which in turn owns their nuclear power plant and their hydro plant), is selling its share.

One of the interested parties is... Hungary. The state-owned company handling state assets, to be precise. Together with MOL the Hungarian oil company, which is under heavy state influence (and its CEO owes a big one to Orban, because he protected him from being sent to jail in Croatia).

A huge question of course is: where the fuck are we getting the 2 billion euros needed for this deal? Surely not from the budget. So based on recent happenings, the conclusion is self-evident, really: we are the strawman for the Russians buying up energy production in Slovakia.

Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but a lot of investors who buy assets do it with borrowed money. Perhaps Hungary intends to do the same.

Would be nice of it to appear in the budget, then.

[Tonitrus]

How hard is it to boot a country from the EU/NATO?

[Tamas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=885zUoIA0xw#t=10

Video showing what is now becoming a regular act: the Socialists "smuggle" in the EU flag to the Parlaiment, both to the main hall and to various meeting rooms, then the chairing Fidesz politician (this time Chairman of the House, Orban's old friend and rabid dog, Laszlo Kover), orders it to be removed as "it is the Hungarian nation's flag which is supposed to be displayed".

You know, because the EU is so evil, that it has been paying for roughly 90% of all development projects in the country for the past, IDK, 8 years, while only asking Hungary to respect at least a few of the basic EU ideals.

[Valmy]

"it is the Hungarian nation's flag which is supposed to be displayed".

So the Russian flag?

[Tamas]

It really is becoming like this bad script for showing a horrible government.

In next year budget's there are two things being raised: taxes, and spending on corrupt stuff, like huge-ass football stadiums for teams who attract a few hundred viewers per game, extra palace for their own culture organisation, etc.

And they are doing changes like removing a big chunk of money from social services to write it in the "supporting sport activities" column.

And they are finishing the nationalisation of the private pension scheme, just flat out closing the remaining 60k accounts, including mine, by creating a requirement that no insurance company can meet.

Really, there is one kind of activity from the government: syphoning money out to their clients and business partners. Everything else has a reduced budget and in the process of decay and collapse. They are a band of locusts.

[Tamas]

[Sheilbh]

Is that Hungarian Crystal Maze?

[Tamas]

Is that Hungarian Crystal Maze?

That's from Batman, dude

[Martinus]

I gotta say I have a hard time with Tamas's reports of Orban's misrule. On one hand, Orban is clearly an authoritarian would be dictator. On the other hand, Tamas's political views are questionable, especially when it comes to stuff like public spending.

[Tamas]

I gotta say I have a hard time with Tamas's reports of Orban's misrule. On one hand, Orban is clearly an authoritarian would be dictator. On the other hand, Tamas's political views are questionable, especially when it comes to stuff like public spending.

It figures that you approve his ways of nationalising private property. You know, the evil 1% opressor kind of property, like employees' private pension savings. Twat.

[Tamas]

I gotta say I have a hard time with Tamas's reports of Orban's misrule. On one hand, Orban is clearly an authoritarian would be dictator. On the other hand, Tamas's political views are questionable, especially when it comes to stuff like public spending.

Oh and on public spending.

The net salary is about 50% of what the employee costs his/her employer (his/her actual pre-tax salary plus the extra things the employer have to pay after the employee).
Add 27% VAT on basically everything.
Then various extra special taxes on all kinds of goods and services that have proven to yield a profit the last 5-6 years.

So about 75% of what you work for goes into the state budget.

Yet, everything from education through military to hospitals are in a bad and worsening shape, poverty is rising.

So why don't you take your grand social ideals of redistribution and relocate to Hungary, see how it feels in practice.

I know you have contempt for the poor like most socialists, so in general I am not annoyed, but you managed to flip me this time.

[Ed Anger]

BEET RAGE

[Tamas]

BEET RAGE

Having a filthy rich lawyer implying that destroying a country is ok as long as it is in the name of communism is a bit annoying.