Israel-Hamas War 2023

[Tamas]

It does seem more than a coincidence if he is a Muslim, especially if he indeed lied to the US as Israel as it is claimed.

[viper37]

It does seem more than a coincidence if he is a Muslim, especially if he indeed lied to the US as Israel as it is claimed.

Lindsey Graham is a reliable source now?

And since when does the court negotiate in advance with war criminals to be judged by a court they control?  Would we allow the Hamas leadership to be judged in Palestine?

[viper37]

Khan's behavior shows his first allegiance is to his Islamist compeers, certainly not to the law, the norms of how the ICC operates, and sure as fuck not to Britain.

And obviously, you are he one deciding on his allegiance.

The verdict is set.  All that is left to do is for you to render the sentence.  Death?

[OttoVonBismarck]

It does seem more than a coincidence if he is a Muslim, especially if he indeed lied to the US as Israel as it is claimed.

Lindsey Graham is a reliable source now?

And since when does the court negotiate in advance with war criminals to be judged by a court they control?  Would we allow the Hamas leadership to be judged in Palestine?

It looks like a lot of mainstream news outlets have reported the same thing Graham alleges.

And the ICC has an obligation to actually work with domestic entities where a country has a functioning court system. It is not at all in line with prior ICC precedent to completely ignore any Israeli process, the ICC by its foundational documents is only an appropriate venue where other courts cannot or will not act, as a court of last resort.

[The Minsky Moment]

What have Israeli courts done against Bibi's grab for power?

Is this a serious question? The Israeli courts resistance to Bibi's over-reaching and the government's abortive efforts against the courts is what precipitated the Israeli political crisis.

I think it would be difficult to argue that Israeli courts are incapable of fair adjudication.  A more serious question is whether there is a viable mechanism for such a case to be brought to the courts. I'm not familiar enough with the Israeli legal system to opine on that last question.

However, it seems to me the more immediate question re the ICC is their creative theory of jurisdiction, i.e. that Gaza is a "state party" to the Rome Treaty, by virtue of: (a) the UN General Assembly vote to recognize "Palestine" as a state, and (b) the 2015 declaration of the Mahmud Abbas on behalf of the PA, an organization with zero authority in Gaza, of intention to submit to ICC jurisdiction.

[grumbler]

Not having a sex offender brother or leaders in a religion also disqualifies King Charles as a British citizen

 

[viper37]

What have Israeli courts done against Bibi's grab for power?

Is this a serious question? The Israeli courts resistance to Bibi's over-reaching and the government's abortive efforts against the courts is what precipitated the Israeli political crisis.

I think it would be difficult to argue that Israeli courts are incapable of fair adjudication.  A more serious question is whether there is a viable mechanism for such a case to be brought to the courts. I'm not familiar enough with the Israeli legal system to opine on that last question.

It is a serious question: what did change?  Did they prevent Netanyahu from doing what he wanted to do?

It seems they were just as effective as the courts were against Andrew Jackson.

So I ask the question again: Assuming Lindsey Graham does not distort the fact (it's a big if, and I doubt that's the case, but let's play), what could the courts do?  He's already been accused 3 times of corruption and managed to get away with it, once by naming a prosecutor favorable to him who would reduce the charges.  What do you think would happen if he there were any serious accusations of war crimes being leveled against him?

However, it seems to me the more immediate question re the ICC is their creative theory of jurisdiction, i.e. that Gaza is a "state party" to the Rome Treaty, by virtue of: (a) the UN General Assembly vote to recognize "Palestine" as a state, and (b) the 2015 declaration of the Mahmud Abbas on behalf of the PA, an organization with zero authority in Gaza, of intention to submit to ICC jurisdiction.

That's a technicality.  It's akin to saying the US courts can't judge a President for his crimes.  It's an interesting legal debates for those inclined on this subject, but it's irrelevant to the facts debated: is there a crime that was committed.