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Started by Eddie Teach, March 06, 2011, 09:29:27 AM

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Martinus

Vicious is a great example - so far it had season 1 consisting of 6 30-minute episodes, but already 2 Christmas specials.  :lol:

Sophie Scholl

I'm going to miss The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson even more than the Colbert Report I think.  I'll miss both quite a bit though. :weep:
"Everything that brought you here -- all the things that made you a prisoner of past sins -- they are gone. Forever and for good. So let the past go... and live."

"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."

The Brain

Quote from: Sheilbh on December 19, 2014, 06:54:32 PM
Quote from: frunk on December 19, 2014, 06:41:48 PM
I thought [spoiler]the first and last (series 1, ep. 1,  series 2, ep. 3)[/spoiler] were the weakest.
Interesting. [spoiler]For me it's the same with both series, I really like episode 1, I love episode 2 and I think episode 3 is the weakest.[/spoiler]

I've just discovered this piece on Blade Runners' sets by one of my favourite TV hosts. For Ide:
QuoteFuture retrospection: Blade Runner's sets
by Jonathan Meades

It is a truism that representations of the future (and, indeed, of the past) are more indicative of the era they are made than the era they are made about. Characteristically they lift a couple of aspects of the familiar (present) world and stretch or heighten them, or distil them into caricature. Ridley Scott insouciantly adheres to this procedure just as Verne, Wells (whom Oscar Wilde called 'a scientific Jules Verne') and Huxley did before him. His cinematic precursors obviously include Fritz Lang, whose Metropolis was all Sant 'Elia and New York and arch expressionism; William Cameron Menzies, whose Things to Come was Art Deco laid on with a trowel; and Charlie Chaplin, whose Modern Times was a technological cartoon.

Thus Scott's idea of Los Angeles 40 years hence in Blade Runner is a salad of past styles, by which I mean pre 1982 styles. This is cute, clever and predictable: his future, like every other ever posited, is the present only more so, a reflection in a distorting mirror, a reflection which, alas, is presented with such thorough humourlessness that you must assume that it is meant to be taken seriously. The quasi-cultural fragment of the early 1980s that Scott has chosen to exploit is the craze for exhuming the (fairly recent) past. He evidently reckons that in 2019 in LA this 'copyist' urge will be even stronger than it is today.

Scott, who (all too clearly) began his career as a designer for television, rummages with promiscuous (or 'post modern') abandon through the store of the world's architectural gestures. He does not oblige himself to achieve what have hitherto been the predominant characteristics of utopian and dystopian cities homogeneity and consistency. Of course a consistency is imposed on the film by the manner in which it is shot: the constant rain, the range of tiresomely ingenious devices that disorientate the spectator, the facetiously world-weary narration that the protagonist delivers and, most of all, another echo of 1940s private eye movies, the 'atmospheric' lighting. Light is always indirect beamed or diffused or reflected which makes it 'atmospheric'. So, on to the stylistic salad that is given this hefty dressing, as colourful and crude as something out of a Kraft bottle.

The first man to be hauled on for a thunderous round of applause is the late John Martin. Martin died 128 years ago last 17 February on the Isle of Man, having given a lifetime to devising exuberantly fantastical (and unrealized) architectural improvements, and to composing equally fantastical apocalyptic canvases that earned him a place in the British pantheon and the sobriquet 'Mad'. Scott is living testimony to the truth of T. S. Eliot's maxim that 'great poets don't borrow, they steal'. Scott, in the nicest possible way of course, exhibits the influence of Martin. He is not the first film maker to do so; D. W. Griffith and Coppola in Apocalypse Now trod before him, but they were mere pickpockets beside Scott's sledgehammer and stocking mask blagger. However, he is the first to capture photographically the grandiose blowsiness that Martin did so well in paint. This is no puny achievement: Martin's Michelin Man buildings, with their swollen columns and rustication like folds of fat, look splendidly tawdry in the film.

The next to collect laurels must be American 'Borax' designers, Bel Geddes, Loewy, people like that. Scott gives the OK to streamlining, and why not. There is a fair bit of unrestructured moderne to be glimpsed in the shadows. And what else? There is classicism of the Edwin Cooper sort; a soupçon of the Milan railway station manner; some purposeful chunks of Archigram stuff; and a wondrous interior peopled by brightly clothed tumbling dwarfs who look as though they are the pets of an ideal madman in Naples, 1800.

There is also a lot of Hong Kong (neon and noodles, not Norman Foster) since for some reason Los Angeles is full of Chinese: I suspect some point about inner cities was being made but the script is not wildly lucid. Finally, there is a very large building that recalls the insaner sort of public housing schemes in outer Paris. I note that Arthur Drexler described such a scheme as having the look of a 'twenties set for a German film'. And what happens in this extravagant illusion? Actors decorate it: the Word is not something in which Scott is much interested. The titular hero has to track down and kill robots that are supposedly indistinguishable from humans. The film is so bereft of emotional resonance, so wanting a moral dimension that the humans seem no less robotic than the real robots. Scott is the veteran (and victim) of 3000 advertising films. Here he has nothing to sell and all the time in the world to sell it. The art is in his props; it's all wrapping and no gift.

Since long before the advent of cinema there has been an exchange between architecture as building and architecture as imagined ideal. This exchange has not been entirely felicitous. Approximations to the paradisiac landscapes of the seventeenth century are one thing, doltish attempts (not peculiar to Paris) to emulate the nightmare city of Metropolis are quite another. When the exchange is in the opposite direction the imaginary drawing on and synthesizing strands of the real the results, even if they are disappointing, are unlikely to be harmful. Imagined architecture is like its twin in every aspect save two rather vital ones: it is not public art and it is not functional. Imagined architecture is never quite in earnest; it is chimeric, fun, sublime. Do not copy.

1982

"Scott Scott Scott" but no mention of Syd Mead?
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

celedhring


frunk

Quote from: Benedict Arnold on December 20, 2014, 04:51:28 AM
I'm going to miss The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson even more than the Colbert Report I think.  I'll miss both quite a bit though. :weep:

It was a decent finale.

Neil

How can Arrow be any good without Green Lantern?
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Viking

Quote from: Neil on December 20, 2014, 01:54:25 PM
How can Arrow be any good without Green Lantern?

Less social commentary, more shooting people with arrows.

I thought you would approve.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

PRC

Quote from: crazy canuck on December 14, 2014, 11:08:40 PM
finished watching Marco Polo.  Production value is very high.  Script is very good.  Acting is very good.  Lots in interesting deep characters.  Historical accuracy - not that great.  But if you can look past that it is really very good.  Only down side,  I need to wait for season two now.

Just finished this.  Love the sets and costumes and some good acting from some of the cast (Kublai).  Some of it is ridiculous (blind Kung Fu master, etc), but since I love Kung Fu movies I still found it overall very enjoyable.

HVC

Quote from: Benedict Arnold on December 20, 2014, 04:51:28 AM
I'm going to miss The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson even more than the Colbert Report I think.  I'll miss both quite a bit though. :weep:
i really liked Craig's style of interviewing. Some of the best cold opening ever too.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Neil

Quote from: Viking on December 20, 2014, 02:36:04 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 20, 2014, 01:54:25 PM
How can Arrow be any good without Green Lantern?
Less social commentary, more shooting people with arrows.

I thought you would approve.
Green Arrow wasn't my favorite superhero, but I felt he worked fairly well in the context of the JLA.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Martinus

#24100
Marco Polo is on my list when I catch up with Arrow. Also waiting are last 3 episodes of Constantine and American Horror Story.

And Once Upon a Time.  :blush:

Gave up on Reign completely. What crap. Compared to that, Tudors was a masterpiece.

Eddie Teach

Dead Snow. Rather grisly for my tastes.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Viking

Quote from: Neil on December 20, 2014, 09:42:25 PM
Quote from: Viking on December 20, 2014, 02:36:04 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 20, 2014, 01:54:25 PM
How can Arrow be any good without Green Lantern?
Less social commentary, more shooting people with arrows.

I thought you would approve.
Green Arrow wasn't my favorite superhero, but I felt he worked fairly well in the context of the JLA.

Green Arrow is nobody's favorite superhero.. well, maybe he is now, due to the show, but before the show, no.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Martinus

#24103
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on December 20, 2014, 04:51:28 AM
I'm going to miss The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson even more than the Colbert Report I think.  I'll miss both quite a bit though. :weep:

Liked the Colbert Report send-off song. Wonder how many of those present wanted to punch Mike Huckabee, though.

Scipio

Marco Polo is shit history, but beautiful visuals.
What I speak out of my mouth is the truth.  It burns like fire.
-Jose Canseco

There you go, giving a fuck when it ain't your turn to give a fuck.
-Every cop, The Wire

"It is always good to be known for one's Krapp."
-John Hurt