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Quote from: The Larch on January 09, 2017, 07:09:50 PM
Very little? She has 8 acting credits since 2011, when the Harry Potter saga finished, and meanwhile she has studied English Literature at Brown and became an UN goodwill ambassador. And she's only 26 yet.

Apparently, people have also forgotten that Emma Watson also has a very on-again, off-again relationship with acting.  Went to Brown and dialed it back, then quit Brown to concentrate on acting (-100 points for Gryffindor for that move, IMO :angry:), and as recently as last year, has suggested that she might at least go dormant for a while after Beauty and the Beast.
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Quote from: Phillip V on January 09, 2017, 10:30:14 PMOne of my favorite Disney movies about personal development and relationship building.

You make it sound as if it was a self-help book.

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Quote from: The Larch on January 10, 2017, 10:23:03 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on January 09, 2017, 10:30:14 PMOne of my favorite Disney movies about personal development and relationship building.

You make it sound as if it was a self-help book.

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Quote from: Phillip V on January 09, 2017, 10:30:14 PM
I wish they had cast a more womanly Belle.  Watson still looks childish.  Oh well.  One of my favorite Disney movies about personal development and relationship building.

The point of the Beauty and the Beast story is that it's about a girl reaching and discovering womanhood. Getting a childish looking actress is fine.

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Quote from: celedhring on January 10, 2017, 10:30:12 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on January 09, 2017, 10:30:14 PM
I wish they had cast a more womanly Belle.  Watson still looks childish.  Oh well.  One of my favorite Disney movies about personal development and relationship building.

The point of the Beauty and the Beast story is that it's about a girl reaching and discovering womanhood. Getting a childish looking actress is fine.

Indeed.
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Quote from: celedhring on January 10, 2017, 10:30:12 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on January 09, 2017, 10:30:14 PM
I wish they had cast a more womanly Belle.  Watson still looks childish.  Oh well.  One of my favorite Disney movies about personal development and relationship building.

The point of the Beauty and the Beast story is that it's about a girl reaching and discovering womanhood. Getting a childish looking actress is fine.

Eh?  How did Belle change?  She was already an independent, intelligent, dutiful, loving woman from the start.
- reading books
- rejecting macho Gaston
- saving father multiple times
- nursing the Beast back to health

The "person" who changed was the Beast.  Instead of trying to force Belle to love him and break the spell, the Beast first internally changed into a better man that Belle came to naturally love.  He compassionately let Belle leave the castle when she saw her father in danger again, even though it meant that the Beast was letting his last chance of being a man again go out the door.

celedhring

Belle "falls in love" with an ugly beast hidden in the forest, rejected and feared by the community she belongs. It's the least subtle metaphor for losing one's virginity outside of wedlock I have ever seen.

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unless evidence shows belle always had a kink for beastmen, she definitely changed to some extent

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Quote from: Berkut on January 10, 2017, 11:28:46 AM
Sometimes it is just a cigar.

There's a reason why there's so many folk stories with little girls getting lost in forests and encountering beasts/witches. Fairy tales, at the core, are metaphors for the experience of growing up. Asserting one's independence, confronting sexuality - and the dangers posed by both - are themes very often encountered in them. Beauty and the Beast is one of the most glaringly obvious ones.

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Sex is one meaning but there are other dangers in the world than sexual predators. I think it represents many of the dangers and traps one can fall into when one ventures out in the world.

But since she helps turn this monster into a kind man perhaps it is more explicitly sexual here than it is in other 'girls goes into the woods' stories.
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