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Started by Berkut, March 06, 2011, 01:25:18 AM

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#30
March 13, 2011, 12:03:39 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 12, 2011, 11:29:23 PM
I'm by far no expert on the game, but the three turn Minsk scenario is a good primer on how to play the first turns as Germans, because you have to be ridiculously aggressive to reach all objectives. Germans can get as far as Minsk on turn one and pocket all units west of it. As said, you don't need a continuous line of units to create a pocket, which greatly aids - just make sure your advance doesn't get cut off. Also, pockets take a day to come into full effect. And if you know that units will be pocketed next turn, it makes sense to not attack them this turn, because you will wipe them up next turn, anyways. Attacking now would be a waste of resources.

I like your sweep into the Baltics, though. :)

As Soviet there's not much more to do in the first turns than trying to save as many units as possible while trying to build up a defense and choke points. Some people seem to favor a "checkerboard defense" of overlapping ZOCs, but though there's some arguments for them it feels a bit gamey.

My not spacing units out isn't because I don't know that I ought to, it is usually because I am struggling to get units in space due to trying to go as far as possible. And hence everyone ends up going the (roughly) same way, and hence they end up all bunched up. Which is rather accurate, historically.

To be honest, I am not trying THAT hard to optimize. Just trying to figure the game out. I actually really like the first couple times through a new game, when you don't really know what you are doing and kind of feeling your way forward. Makes for a fun experience, and one that can never be replicated again.
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#31
March 13, 2011, 12:17:16 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 13, 2011, 12:03:39 AM
To be honest, I am not trying THAT hard to optimize. Just trying to figure the game out. I actually really like the first couple times through a new game, when you don't really know what you are doing and kind of feeling your way forward. Makes for a fun experience, and one that can never be replicated again.

Oh, I agree. My playing the Soviets is similar - so far I played them once, up to turn 5, in an aborted PBEM game. It should make for a somewhat historical result how I handle them. ;) And yes, learning a new game is always fun - trying new things and not yet being set on the "optimal" way to play things.
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Berkut

#32
March 13, 2011, 01:25:46 AM
So where is my turn???
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Syt

#33
March 13, 2011, 02:03:55 AM
I'll have a shwoer now, then breakfast ... probably this afternoon.
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Berkut

#34
March 13, 2011, 05:28:38 PM
Well, AGS ended up making a pretty nice encirclement, with some timely help from the Romanians.

Another potential encirclement forming near Pskov, although I have not managed to get enough troops around the southern end.

Kind of annoying that you cannot access the game once you upload your turn though - would like to post some screenshots.
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#35
March 15, 2011, 12:22:43 AM
Soviet High Command appears to have gone on vacation.
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#36
March 15, 2011, 01:57:31 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 15, 2011, 12:22:43 AM
Soviet High Command appears to have gone on vacation.

Stalin spent a lot of last evening on a conference call with the American allies and expects to have to do the same today. :(
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Berkut

#37
March 15, 2011, 07:16:59 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 15, 2011, 01:57:31 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 15, 2011, 12:22:43 AM
Soviet High Command appears to have gone on vacation.

Stalin spent a lot of last evening on a conference call with the American allies and expects to have to do the same today. :(

Damn Americans. Always interfering and mucking things up.
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#38
March 17, 2011, 02:55:03 PM
Syt, you are really letting me down here. :(
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#39
March 18, 2011, 02:44:49 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 17, 2011, 02:55:03 PM
Syt, you are really letting me down here. :(

Sorry... not much computer time recently. :( Turn coming tonight!
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Berkut

#40
March 20, 2011, 02:10:31 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 18, 2011, 02:44:49 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 17, 2011, 02:55:03 PM
Syt, you are really letting me down here. :(

Sorry... not much computer time recently. :( Turn coming tonight!

:yeahright:
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#41
March 20, 2011, 03:24:42 PM
You should have played a frenchman like I am.  They are far more reliable than the damned boche.
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#42
March 20, 2011, 06:08:22 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 20, 2011, 02:10:31 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 18, 2011, 02:44:49 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 17, 2011, 02:55:03 PM
Syt, you are really letting me down here. :(

Sorry... not much computer time recently. :( Turn coming tonight!

:yeahright:

He got absorbed into Tamas' High Frontier game.
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Syt

#43
March 21, 2011, 01:27:44 AM
Sorry, haven't had a good time recently. I suggest we postpone?

After all, it's only fair after you fluked out of the two PBEM games (CMBB & TOAW) we tried before.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Berkut

#44
March 21, 2011, 07:50:07 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 21, 2011, 01:27:44 AM
Sorry, haven't had a good time recently. I suggest we postpone?

After all, it's only fair after you fluked out of the two PBEM games (CMBB & TOAW) we tried before.

CMBB? That seems unlikely, I can never get anyone to play that game!

The Soviets in WitE are difficult. I have a game going against another supposed newb player, and on turn 4 his Germans are threatening Moscow. I think I must be doing something wrong as the Soviets.
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