Why I hate fucking Catholic scumbags

[Barrister]

You seemed quite concerned about this whole PPG issue.

Not concerned so much; just amazed that such a thing exists. I guess I don't get out much. It just seems so Clockwork Orange, does it not?

It's the best way to measure a reaction to sexual stimuli, and it's evidence has passed the Daubert test and been accepted in court.

But yeah, it is somewhat amusing.

[Ed Anger]

Daubert test

Did it pass the Dilbert test?

[Barrister]

Daubert test

Did it pass the Dilbert test?

YEs - I believe merely mentioning a scientific device that measures the tumescence of a penis manages to get more laughs theen the entire back catalogue of Dilbert comics.

[Martinus]

Plus most of what I know is from either a really interesting, but only 2 hour long, talk by a psychiatrist who studied in particular adolescent sexual offenders, plus a large number, but purely anecdotal, experience in dealing with allegations of sexual offences.

It is questionable whether an adolescent sex offender could even be regarded as a pedophile - a 17 yo having sex with a 14 yo is definitely not a pedophile - it's just one teen boning another.

I've been dealing with a case of a 14 year old having sex with a 10 year old.  I consulted with several experts who all said 'it depends'.  The kid could be a budding pedophile, or not.  We're in the midst of getting the kid assessed to try and find out.

You can't generalize in talking about sex offenders.

See, this is the kind of moronic mindset I am talking about here. How do you even determine which one is a "sex offender" if both of them are minors?

[Admiral Yi]

he had sex with a candy striper at least 3 times a day while in the hospital recovering from the car accident...

No. Fucking. Way.

[MadImmortalMan]

See, this is the kind of moronic mindset I am talking about here. How do you even determine which one is a "sex offender" if both of them are minors?

If one of them is non-consenting, the other is the offender.

??

That'd be my guess.

[Martinus]

See, this is the kind of moronic mindset I am talking about here. How do you even determine which one is a "sex offender" if both of them are minors?

If one of them is non-consenting, the other is the offender.

??

That'd be my guess.

you do realize that minors are considered unable to give consent, so your response is retarded.

BB didn't say the 14 yo raped the 10 yo but "had sex with". I am going to assume there was no coercion.

[Barrister]

See, this is the kind of moronic mindset I am talking about here. How do you even determine which one is a "sex offender" if both of them are minors?

I am not at all comfortable discussing this file and will say nothing more, other than there is plenty more that I am not telling you, both in the facts and in how our office is dealing with it.

[Ed Anger]

Lets discuss it in the back room where Mart has no access. And talk behind his back also.

[Barrister]

Lets discuss it in the back room where Mart has no access.

No.

And talk behind his back also.

Now you're talking...

[Martinus]

See, this is the kind of moronic mindset I am talking about here. How do you even determine which one is a "sex offender" if both of them are minors?

I am not at all comfortable discussing this file and will say nothing more, other than there is plenty more that I am not telling you, both in the facts and in how our office is dealing with it.

Fine. Perhaps you shouldn't bring up such examples then if, when called on their inconsistency or lack of logic, you hide behind secrecy?

Ok answer my general question earlier then - if two teenagers have sex with each other, and there is no evidence of rape, is any of them (both?) a sexual offender?

[viper37]

I think it more likely that pedophiles are equal opportunity abusers.  Take Clifford Olsen for example.

doubt that.
Heard the testimony of one pedophile, caught by an undercover journalist, and he was showing the journalist his pictures with his pedo friends, describing their preferences.  Some like older boys, some prefered girls, and another one he said "a 5 year old doesn't bother him".

Sort of like serial killers.  A serial killer picks his targets according to is mo and usually sticks with it.

[Razgovory]

Or a guy who's into mens feet.

[viper37]

See, this is the kind of moronic mindset I am talking about here. How do you even determine which one is a "sex offender" if both of them are minors?

probably the same way you determine if a 14 year old committing another crime can be judged has an adult.

[viper37]

Or a guy who's into mens feet.

that would be really creapy.  Such guys should be jailed immediatly, to prevent future abuses.  I think they're closer to psychopaths than anything else.

Did you have someone particular in mind?