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Started by jimmy olsen, April 09, 2010, 10:57:19 AM

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jimmy olsen

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Valmy

Turnout of what?

Anyway have a good life Justice Stevens.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Grey Fox

I hope no chickens out this time & the republicans actually have to filibuster the nomination & not just emit the idea of filibuster to block it.

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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Valmy on April 09, 2010, 10:59:05 AM
Turnout of what?

Anyway have a good life Justice Stevens.
Of the election obviously.

Whoever Obama nominates will piss some people off and they'll be more likely to vote.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Faeelin

Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2010, 11:22:04 AM
Whoever Obama nominates will piss some people off and they'll be more likely to vote.

I didn't care about Obama's socialist death panels, his bailouts of the banks, and the way he's surrendering to terrorists, but 7th Circuit Judge Diane Wood in the SCOTUS? We must stop him now!

The Minsky Moment

I guess Ginsburg announces next year then.
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Valmy

Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2010, 11:22:04 AM
Of the election obviously.

Whoever Obama nominates will piss some people off and they'll be more likely to vote.

Anybody who pays enough attention to notice Supreme Court nominations and cares enough to have an opinion is a political junkie who is going to vote anyway.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Faeelin on April 09, 2010, 12:05:21 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2010, 11:22:04 AM
Whoever Obama nominates will piss some people off and they'll be more likely to vote.

I didn't care about Obama's socialist death panels, his bailouts of the banks, and the way he's surrendering to terrorists, but 7th Circuit Judge Diane Wood in the SCOTUS? We must stop him now!
Who's on the Supreme Court matters as much all those things put together. 
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2010, 12:11:13 PM
Who's on the Supreme Court matters as much all those things put together.
Stevens is not a swing vote, he's part of the solid liberal bloc.  Replacing him with another liberal is not going to change anything.

Even if he were swing vote, how much would that change?  Maybe some changes at the margin of Roe v. Wade?  Compare that to the consequences of a meltdown of the financial system.

KRonn

Cool. Now Obama can appoint a Conservative to replace Liberal Stevens. That way Obama can feel he's fishing for some Independent voter support.   ;)

dps

I'd read a few days ago that he was planning on retiring, but hadn't announced a date yet.  I didn't realize it, but if he would have stayed until mid-2012, he'd have beaten Douglass' record for the longest tenure on the court.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Valmy on April 09, 2010, 12:08:13 PM
Anybody who pays enough attention to notice Supreme Court nominations and cares enough to have an opinion is a political junkie who is going to vote anyway.

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Sheilbh

I really think the Supreme Court should have term limits (or, like Cardinals, a retirement age). 

I mean Stevens, God bless him, probably should retire at 90 but I think it sort of cheapens it when Justices hold out for a President with whom they are generally sympathetic or retire when that's the case.  But also he was appointed by Ford.  Surely 35 years in a highly important and influential position is more than enough :mellow:
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grumbler

Quote from: Sheilbh on April 09, 2010, 06:05:39 PM
I really think the Supreme Court should have term limits (or, like Cardinals, a retirement age).   
Probably true, but that train left the station when the Constitution was written.  Trying to get a constitutional amendment over this issue (when it has never been an issue) is impossible.  Maybe someday, when the issue actually becomes an issue, it can be raised.

QuoteI mean Stevens, God bless him, probably should retire at 90 but I think it sort of cheapens it when Justices hold out for a President with whom they are generally sympathetic or retire when that's the case.  But also he was appointed by Ford.  Surely 35 years in a highly important and influential position is more than enough :mellow:
Surely Stevens agrees that he has been on the bench long enough.  He is, after all, retiring when he could have set a record in just a few years, and is in excellent health (still playing tennis daily when the court isn't in session or he can squeeze in a game).  The argument that Justices should not be allowed to retire on their own terms seems short-sighted, as in "you cannot retire now because it would allow a President whom you think will appoint a justice you agree with to nominate your successor."  Why have justices serving when they don't want to? :mellow:
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ulmont

Yes, 18 year terms would be better (each president then gets 2 nominees if you stagger the 9). 

Constitutional amendment required though.