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Started by Eochaid, April 08, 2009, 05:30:03 AM

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Valmy

#15
April 08, 2009, 08:10:15 AM
Quote from: Caliga on April 08, 2009, 07:18:27 AMI mean, look at how (most) people today view Joseph Smith, L. Ron Hubbard, Jim Jones, Charlie Manson, Rev. Moon, and David Koresh.

As enlightened men with beautiful souls?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Berkut

#16
April 08, 2009, 08:11:31 AM
My birthday is on Easter this year - I think for the first time.

I think this means I am like Jesus or something.
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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Ed Anger

#17
April 08, 2009, 08:11:40 AM
I though David Koresh was sorta cool.  :Embarrass:
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Viking

#18
April 08, 2009, 08:13:51 AM
Quote from: Berkut on April 08, 2009, 08:11:31 AM
My birthday is on Easter this year - I think for the first time.

I think this means I am like Jesus or something.

eh.... I sort of assumed you already knew that Easter=Jesus tortured to death....
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Martinus

#19
April 08, 2009, 08:13:52 AM
Quote from: Berkut on April 08, 2009, 08:11:31 AM
My birthday is on Easter this year - I think for the first time.

I think this means I am like Jesus or something.
Xmas is about Jesus's birth. Easter is about His martyrdom.

Which makes you wonder - would you want your followers to have their biggest party in the entire year to celebrate the fact that you have been brutally murdered? :unsure:

Valmy

#20
April 08, 2009, 08:15:16 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 08, 2009, 08:09:32 AMThe way I see it, no matter how kind, well-meaning and benevolent religious people are, they are bound to be eventually wrong about something, because of the GIGO principle.

Their choices and decisions are informed by a set of data that is simply wrong.

I always get the sense you people mean by 'religious' people you mean fundamentalist Ned Flanders types exclusively.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Viking

#21
April 08, 2009, 08:15:51 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 08, 2009, 08:13:52 AM
Quote from: Berkut on April 08, 2009, 08:11:31 AM
My birthday is on Easter this year - I think for the first time.

I think this means I am like Jesus or something.
Xmas is about Jesus's birth. Easter is about His martyrdom.

Which makes you wonder - would you want your followers to have their biggest party in the entire year to celebrate the fact that you have been brutally murdered? :unsure:

25 dec is Mithras' birthday. Astronomers put Jesus' birthday at 9 September iirc.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Valmy

#22
April 08, 2009, 08:16:40 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 08, 2009, 08:13:52 AMXmas is about Jesus's birth. Easter is about His martyrdom.

Which makes you wonder - would you want your followers to have their biggest party in the entire year to celebrate the fact that you have been brutally murdered? :unsure:

Easter is the biggest party of the year?  Dude we don't even get presents!  Anyway it is better than the Jews celebrating the killing of all the Egyptian babies.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Ed Anger

#23
April 08, 2009, 08:17:23 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 08, 2009, 08:16:40 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 08, 2009, 08:13:52 AMXmas is about Jesus's birth. Easter is about His martyrdom.

Which makes you wonder - would you want your followers to have their biggest party in the entire year to celebrate the fact that you have been brutally murdered? :unsure:

Easter is the biggest party of the year?  Dude we don't even get presents!  Anyway it is better than the Jews celebrating the killing of all the Egyptian babies.

WE GET EGGS. DELICIOUS COLORED EGGS.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Valmy

#24
April 08, 2009, 08:18:23 AM
Quote from: Viking on April 08, 2009, 08:15:51 AM25 dec is Mithras' birthday. Astronomers put Jesus' birthday at 9 September iirc.

That is ridiculous.  The Astronomers would have to accept on faith the whole nonsense about the big star thing was based on historical fact.  The entire birth narrative, and any of the stuff about Jesus' youth, is almost certainly completely invented after the fact-if his life entirely was not in fact invented completely after the fact.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Martinus

#25
April 08, 2009, 08:20:09 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 08, 2009, 08:15:16 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 08, 2009, 08:09:32 AMThe way I see it, no matter how kind, well-meaning and benevolent religious people are, they are bound to be eventually wrong about something, because of the GIGO principle.

Their choices and decisions are informed by a set of data that is simply wrong.

I always get the sense you people mean by 'religious' people you mean fundamentalist Ned Flanders types exclusively.
Well, they are more obvious about it.

Still, even the most well-meaning religious person has his decisions informed to some extent by religious convictions, some of which are (at least according to me) wrong.

For example, the belief in afterlife makes people more accepting of their shitty existence (rather than willing to improve it). If you think the world is going to end in 50 years, what's the point of preventing the climate change. Etc.

Valmy

#26
April 08, 2009, 08:20:48 AM
Quote from: Berkut on April 08, 2009, 08:11:31 AM
My birthday is on Easter this year - I think for the first time.

I think this means I am like Jesus or something.

Just as Jesus rose from the Dead, Berkut was ejected from the womb!  All hail Berkut!  He has given us life after gestation.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

#27
April 08, 2009, 08:21:43 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 08, 2009, 08:20:09 AM
If you think the world is going to end in 50 years, what's the point of preventing the climate change. Etc.

My Fiancee has thus far refused to invest in her retirement just in case the Mayans were right about 2012 :bleeding:
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Ed Anger

#28
April 08, 2009, 08:23:33 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 08, 2009, 08:21:43 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 08, 2009, 08:20:09 AM
If you think the world is going to end in 50 years, what's the point of preventing the climate change. Etc.

My Fiancee has thus far refused to invest in her retirement just in case the Mayans were right about 2012 :bleeding:

Dude.  :lol:
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Viking

#29
April 08, 2009, 08:23:40 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 08, 2009, 08:15:16 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 08, 2009, 08:09:32 AMThe way I see it, no matter how kind, well-meaning and benevolent religious people are, they are bound to be eventually wrong about something, because of the GIGO principle.

Their choices and decisions are informed by a set of data that is simply wrong.

I always get the sense you people mean by 'religious' people you mean fundamentalist Ned Flanders types exclusively.

I consider people to be religious who consider believe a substantial part of the mythology of any one religion to be true. Or people who believe that there is a supernatural mover which effects the real world. 
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.
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