The everything miniatures wargaming thread

[Jacob]

Wargamer has an article summarizing what is known about GW's upcoming Warhammer: the Old World (they're bringing back a rank and file fantasy Warhammer): https://www.wargamer.com/warhammer-the-old-world/rules

Some neat bits in there... I like the apparent focus on movement, where they'll be distinguishing between Close Order and Open Order formations, in addition to units in Skirmish formations.

I've been done with GW's games for a while, but I'm feeling the temptation to dig out my old High Elves (and Goblins, and Chaos, and Dwarfs...) and getting them into a decent state to see if I can get a few games in at my local game store when the rules drop.

I don't know....

[The Brain]

From what little I've seen it appears their aim is to get rid of all the mid-brow stuff in the fluff. Like Massif Orcal or Louen Leoncoeur etc. Also, is it, as the name implies, actually limited to just the Old World?

[Sophie Scholl]

In what regard? Factions? This is what I could find regarding who is in and who is out (so far). Your Tomb Kings actually are a core group it seems! 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/02/06/old-world-development-diary-walk-like-a-nehekharan-in-the-land-of-the-dead/

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[Jacob]

From what little I've seen it appears their aim is to get rid of all the mid-brow stuff in the fluff. Like Massif Orcal or Louen Leoncoeur etc. Also, is it, as the name implies, actually limited to just the Old World?

As Sophie's list shows, it's expected they'll do Kislev and Grand Cathay at some point, so if you mean geographically then no. As I understand it "the Old World" is a temporal reference, it's the Warhammer World before the Storm of Chaos blew up everything and led to the Age of Sigmar.

[The Brain]

That's one of the reasons I don't like it: taking a big dump on terms that are well-established in fluff.

[Jacob]

That's one of the reasons I don't like it: taking a big dump on terms that are well-established in fluff.

Yeah that's totally fair.

I think I'll dabble, for two and a half reasons:

1) I want to check out the new implementation of the rules. I have a lot of Fantasy rank and file mini rule sets, so I'll want to check this one out too.

2) I'm getting a little bit excited about dusting off my old army (armies) and getting some games in at the local nerd store when TOW is the new hotness.

2.5) I'll want to bring my boy along to help roll dice and stuff, making it a father-son thing.

[Jacob]

GW's been previewing some of the rules on their "Almanack" site: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/11/20/old-world-almanack-fight-the-good-fight-in-the-combat-phase/

Looks like they've added a bit of complexity since the last few iterations:

Losing combat has three different possible outcomes: give ground / falling back in good order / rout. Apparently more than one round of combat can be fought as well... which I suppose will resolve unit combats faster, rather than allowing tar pits.

[Jacob]

So I put my preorders in at the FLGS and I'm getting the Core Book, Ravening Hordes, Forces of Fantasy, and the Bretonnia army book thingie (arcane journal, I think it's called).

I've been of the GW product line for a while, but they're reeling me back in 

[Jacob]

So I was painting a bit when I accidentally knocked over a pot of Spacewolf Gray contrast paint. I spent about 30 seconds trying to scoop it back in before I gave up on that.

Instead I rummaged through all my primed minis to find the ones where it'd make sense to put down a base layer of that paint.

Not the most efficient way to use paint, alas.

[Sophie Scholl]

Ooof. That's certainly not fun. I'm glad you salvaged something, though!

I've been really tempted to get into the small scale AoS/40k/OW or one of the small scale Star Wars games for a bit. I feel like I would be better off just looking for a ttrpg group, though, as I have no real desire to much more than be involved with narrative aspects of those games.

[Jacob]

If you're looking for narrative, but like the GW oeuvre and minis I'd suggest looking for Mordheim or Necromunda group

[jimmy olsen]

Caiphas Cain books are good and so are Sandy Mitchel's Dark Heresey books, although that series will never be finished.

I've read Know No Fear, which is the HH book where the Ultramarines get Pearl Harbored at Calth by the World Bearers. It was good, but that's the only HH book I've read.

[Sophie Scholl]

Ooof. That's certainly not fun. I'm glad you salvaged something, though!

I've been really tempted to get into the small scale AoS/40k/OW or one of the small scale Star Wars games for a bit. I feel like I would be better off just looking for a ttrpg group, though, as I have no real desire to much more than be involved with narrative aspects of those games.

Roughly a year later and the itch is back! I've been re-reading some Horus Heresy stuff, a bit of 40k, and really digging into Age of Sigmar for the first time. Age of Sigmar, with its more narrative focused game modes (Quest, Warcray, and Underworlds) seems like a great fit. The fact that a lot of the worst and most toxic of the 40k crowd seems to have written the game off at launch reminds me a bit of how Star Wars: The High Republic managed to reignite my love for that universe. I've ordered a few minis/starter games that are within the $35ish dollar price range, nabbed a few Warcry books and discounted sets, and am looking to start painting a few up soon! I'll probably go for Stormcast Eternals as Space Marines as knights with any gender allowed is pretty awesome to me. Plus, they seem to be readily available, inexpensive due to powerful/low unit numbers, and relatively easy to paint. I hope. 

[The Brain]

Nice.

I got the Old World rulebook, and its treatment of fluff was better than I feared. I do think it's a bit silly that they divide army books into Good and Evil, terms that are traditionally irrelevant in Warhammer. And that Tomb Kings go into Evil, which makes zero sense to me.

[Sophie Scholl]

Yeah. That's definitely odd. I like the Chaos/Order/Destruction/Death breakdown for AoS. I'm almost tempted to look more into what play styles exist for The Old World, if only so I could field a "good" Mousillon crew. I believe the timeline is just prior to the Affair of the False Grail.