The Public's ebbing trust in complex science

[Hansmeister]

The problem is that global warming has been exposed as a hoax.  Every day there are more and more revelations of widespread tampering with evidence, if not outright manufacturing of it by the "scientists" in the global warming field.

It's the fraudsters that have replaced science with gaia-worship, they should stick to watching Avatar instead of pretending to be scientists.  We are now experiencing a return to science in a field long devoid of it as more and more critical eyes are looking at the hype and the hysteria with concerning eyes and shooting apart their manufactured "consent".

So you honestly believe there is a global conspiracy of scientists to create an issue of global warming?  What is this cabal's goals?  When did they get started?  I'm really interested in this.

It's funny that there are still a lot of people that pretend that the last few months of revelations of massive fakery didn't happen.

The reason is very simple" Money and power.  Lots of it.  And it only took a small cabal of "scientists" in key positions to corrupt the process, since by withholding the data from the scientific community at large they forced them to accept their facts at face-value.  Now that more and more of the data has been forced into the open people can see that their science was fake all along.  The IPCC and the East Anglia Climate Center have now been discredited.  The 2007 IPCC report will have to be withdrawn since much of what was included was not based on science at all but on press releases by lobby groups, articles of enviro reporters, and even college papers.  We now know that the computer programmers who wrote the climate model thought their program was crap.  We now know that they used a fake study of chinese climate data to argue that there was no Urban Heat Effect so that they don't have to adjust the data for it (Once you do global warming disappears).  We now know that they were using their bully pulpit to surpress scientific research that didn't conform to their opinion.  And on and on and on.

Global warming is a massive industry that was about to go gigantic with cap-and-trade.  Luckily that will now come to an end.  Religious nutjobs will of course still cling to their believe in the apocalypse, but their credibility is rapidly approaching that of the Jehovah's Witness.

[grumbler]

This thread delivers.

*pops popcorn*

[PDH]

This thread delivers.

*pops popcorn*

Tomorrow it will get all gayed up when Mart discovers it.

[grumbler]

Tomorrow it will get all gayed up when Mart discovers it.

True.  Things really get shrilluminating when Marti and Hans shrillustrate how divergent their views are on a topic like this.  I can't wait.

[garbon]

That guardian article seems really poorly written.

[crazy canuck]

and shooting apart their manufactured "consent".

I am not sure you appreciate how ironic this statement is coming from you.

[DontSayBanana]

The problem is that global warming has been exposed as a hoax.  Every day there are more and more revelations of widespread tampering with evidence, if not outright manufacturing of it by the "scientists" in the global warming field.

It's the fraudsters that have replaced science with gaia-worship, they should stick to watching Avatar instead of pretending to be scientists.  We are now experiencing a return to science in a field long devoid of it as more and more critical eyes are looking at the hype and the hysteria with concerning eyes and shooting apart their manufactured "consent".

Monbiot might be cooky, but as the cliche goes, "even a broken clock is right twice a day."  You yourself are amazing proof of the lengths people will go to simply to only believe what they want to believe.

Your convenient lapses of memory, for example, that it turned out East Anglia's data was the only one affected, and that it was a matter of poor archival of original data, not "taking numbers out of the ether," as you're so quick to accuse.  That several other countries' climatologists have copies of original data corroborating East Anglia's just doesn't penetrate the layer of propagandic firmament surrounding your private little world.

[Razgovory]

Huh.  Money and Power.  Lots of it.  I didn't know climatologists were in it for the money and power.  Also I wonder what the expressions of this money and power were.  I bet the Jews and the Lizard People released this information to stop the climatologists from muscling in on their turf.

[Jaron]

Hans is funny. If there is no global warming then tell me why its so gosh darn hot! grr, ignorant people piss me off.

[garbon]

Hans is funny. If there is no global warming then tell me why its so gosh darn hot! grr, ignorant people piss me off.

I'm cold.

[Jaron]

Anorexia is a bitch, ain't it ?

[garbon]

Will you sell me some of your blubber?

[Razgovory]

Will you sell me some of your blubber?

Yes.  Yes I will.

[jimmy olsen]

Pishtaco!

[Warspite]

Climate change scientists crave money and power?

Then what on earth are they doing in academia. 

Perhaps as I write this PDH is sniffing coke off a $7,000-a-night hooker's breasts while his fixer scores him a new Bentley.