BREAKING: Vermont legalizes same-sex marriage

[Capetan Mihali]

Also, Vermont really isn't populated exclusively by middle-class "granola-eater" types, there's plenty of native Vermonters from rural areas who don't share a liberal ethos at all, even if they maybe aren't as right-wing as many rural Alabamans.

[Admiral Yi]

In New England, there are more Republicans than most people realize, but these tend to be extremely moderate Republicans.  I don't know anything about Jim Douglas, but if he's been elected in Vermont he must be extremely moderate or even a RINO.

Bill Weld got elected governor of Mass while I was living there, so I'm aware of that.  But Vermont is about the crunchiest state in the union.

[Grey Fox]

Surprisingly Vermont isn't too fond of the Dems, especially at the state level.

Gov. Howard Dean was a Democrat, as is Sen. Leahy.  Bernie Sanders is really a socialist (but officially 'Independent'), but I think he caucases with the Dems.

That's pretty much my point.

[Richard Hakluyt]

How long will it take before opposing gay marriage becomes politically taboo in the US.  In Canada it took about one Federal election.

It'll take much longer than that.  It's going to be a very, very tough battle in the South.

maybe they will secede 

[FunkMonk]

This is cool.

[Sheilbh]

maybe they will secede 

A girdle of orange, Puritan-pumpkin colored girders
braces the tingling Statehouse,

shaking over the excavations, as it faces Colonel Shaw
and his bell-cheeked homo infantry
on St. Gaudens' shaking Civil War relief,
propped by a plank splint against the garage's earthquake.

Two months after marching through Boston,
half the regiment was dead;
at the dedication,
William James could almost hear the bronze homos breathe.

Their monument sticks like a fishbone
in the city's throat.
Its Colonel is as lean
as a compass-needle.

He has an angry wrenlike vigilance,
a greyhound's gently tautness;
he seems to wince at pleasure,
and suffocate for privacy.

He is out of bounds now.  He rejoices in man's lovely,
peculiar power to choose life and die--
when he leads his fag soldiers to death,
he cannot bend his back.
?

[Faeelin]

Heh. A few of the votes to overturn the veto came from people who voted against it, but now feel that the governor was being an asshat. I approve. 

[Martinus]

How long will it take before opposing gay marriage becomes politically taboo in the US.  In Canada it took about one Federal election.

It'll take much longer than that.  It's going to be a very, very tough battle in the South.

Change in the South is easy. You just need to send in the National Guard.

[Neil]

How is this breaking news?  Faggots have been eating at the core of civilization for years now.

[The Brain]

How is this breaking news?  Faggots have been eating at the core of civilization for years now.

They should eat in the streets with the other dogs.

[Neil]

How long will it take before opposing gay marriage becomes politically taboo in the US.  In Canada it took about one Federal election.

Yeah, but our anti-Americanism helped with that.

[Martinus]

How is this breaking news?  Faggots have been eating at the core of civilization for years now.

Your shtick is getting old.

[DGuller]

Right wing Democrats get elected in the South, why wouldn't left wing Republicans get elected in the Northeast?  State and local politics have different dynamics than national politics.

Exactly, I'm shocked that Yi is shocked.  Giuliani, Romney, Pataki, Bloomberg, all were Republicans when elected.

[Neil]

How is this breaking news?  Faggots have been eating at the core of civilization for years now.

Your shtick is getting old.

Yours is even moreso.

[Faeelin]

How long will it take before opposing gay marriage becomes politically taboo in the US.  In Canada it took about one Federal election.

It'll take much longer than that.  It's going to be a very, very tough battle in the South.

We'll see.

Right, now, a third of Americans support gay marriage; a third support civil unions.  I think it is probable that most or all of the Northeast will have gay marriage by 2012, with civil unions in Illinois, Oregon, Washington, and California.

Once you get to that point, you're talking about hundreds of millions of Americans who live in states where gays are forming families with state recognition, and the world not ending.

My guess is a supreme court case sometime in the 2020s, but I could be wrong.