Victory for Poland's gays' rights before the ECHR!

[garbon]

I never touch homosexuals. Somehow it's icky to touch people that enjoy golden showers or ass-rimming.

Which all homosexuals enjoy and no heterosexuals enjoy. 

[ulmont]

Hmm... first of all, it's weird that the law allows someone to retain the lease just because he was the last to fuck the deceased. A lease is a legal act, signed by two parties and I can't see how fucking someone makes you part of the deal.

That's not what the law allowed.

"1.  In the event of a tenant's death, his or her descendants, ascendants, adult siblings, adoptive parents or adopted children or a person who has lived with a tenant in de facto marital cohabitation, shall, on condition that they lived in the tenant's household until his or her death, succeed to the tenancy agreement and acquire the tenant's rights and obligations connected with [the lease of] the flat, unless they relinquish that right to the landlord. This provision shall not apply to persons who, when the [original] tenant died, had title to another residential dwelling.

2.  In cases where there is no successor to the tenancy agreement, or where the successors have relinquished their right, the lease shall expire."

A de facto marriage, as noted previously, requires "emotional, physical and also economic bonds between the partners."

This is essentially allowing leases to be inherited between family members, as expansively defined (adult siblings etc.).

So if I'm the owner of the building, I'm forced to accept someone to lease the apartment, at the same value as the last one, instead of being able to auction it to the highest bidder? That's fucked up...

This can't be the first time you've heard of rent control.

[Alexandru H.]

Not very familiar with it. I've heard of it, sure, but not very accustomed in Europe with it.

[Martinus]

It's something similar to a common law marriage in the Anglo Saxon law or cohabitation under certain civil law syste,s - it is not a formal marriage, but the state recognizes that it gives the partners certain rights.

Essentially this ruling says that even though the Polish constitution defines the "legal" marriage as a marriage between a man and a woman, this does not mean the Polish state can refuse to recognize a de facto cohabitation of same sex partners.

So simply living with someone long enough you can just inherit their stuff?

Marriage-like matters in the UK.  If, for example, you lose your job and claim benefits you'll be turned down if you're living with someone who is earning and married to you, your civil partner or in a 'marriage like relationship with you'.  It means living and sleeping with.

Same in Poland. In fact, a couple of years ago a gay guy was denied social benefits on account he was living with a partner who had a job and was rich. So essentially the ruling is saying you can't have it both ways and treat gay couples differently depending on a whim.

[Martinus]

Not very familiar with it. I've heard of it, sure, but not very accustomed in Europe with it.

Errr, you mean Romania probably, since this is a fairly common legal institution in Europe.

[Alexandru H.]

Not very familiar with it. I've heard of it, sure, but not very accustomed in Europe with it.

Errr, you mean Romania probably, since this is a fairly common legal institution in Europe.

I've lived in Germany for some time and never saw it. (didn't rent anything, so it wasn't an interesting topic).

In Romania, 96% of all people are home owners. My first thing to do after finishing college was buying a house. We don't like tenants, gays or unGodly people. We also hate garlic 

[Razgovory]

It's something similar to a common law marriage in the Anglo Saxon law or cohabitation under certain civil law syste,s - it is not a formal marriage, but the state recognizes that it gives the partners certain rights.

Essentially this ruling says that even though the Polish constitution defines the "legal" marriage as a marriage between a man and a woman, this does not mean the Polish state can refuse to recognize a de facto cohabitation of same sex partners.

So simply living with someone long enough you can just inherit their stuff?

Marriage-like matters in the UK.  If, for example, you lose your job and claim benefits you'll be turned down if you're living with someone who is earning and married to you, your civil partner or in a 'marriage like relationship with you'.  It means living and sleeping with.

If there is no sex then it doesn't count?

[Jaron]

If regular marriage was the same, Berkut would be in trouble.