Greeks enraged over German financial criticism, demand more compensation for WW2

[MadImmortalMan]

It's the response a child would give when caught doing something wrong. The next one will be Greece pointing at Italy and screaming "but they do it too!".

[HVC]

Looks at first glance like a woman perfoming oral sex on a spectacularly under-endowed man. 

And here's the masculine equivalent - great add campaign in France that.




G.

What's it advertising?

Smoking is bad. The theory being that if you tell teens not to do something they'll ignore you, but by telling them that they're under the power and influence of "da man" (big tobacco/suited man in the ad) they'll rebel and stop smoking. Thats what the newpaper quoted the ad's brain trust as saying... more or less

[Martinus]

LOL how retarded. Who do these Greeks think they are? Jews?

[Malthus]

Smoking is bad. The theory being that if you tell teens not to do something they'll ignore you, but by telling them that they're under the power and influence of "da man" (big tobacco/suited man in the ad) they'll rebel and stop smoking. Thats what the newpaper quoted the ad's brain trust as saying... more or less

So, they plan to convince teens that smoking is bad - by associating it with hott oral sex?

I detect a flaw in this plan ... 

[Malthus]

LOL how retarded. Who do these Greeks think they are? Jews?

Well, if they were, they'd hardly be in such financial trouble now, would they? 

[Martinus]

Smoking is bad. The theory being that if you tell teens not to do something they'll ignore you, but by telling them that they're under the power and influence of "da man" (big tobacco/suited man in the ad) they'll rebel and stop smoking. Thats what the newpaper quoted the ad's brain trust as saying... more or less

So, they plan to convince teens that smoking is bad - by associating it with hott oral sex?

I detect a flaw in this plan ... 

Looks like the French have been taking cues from The Onion:

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/new_anti_smoking_ads_warn_teens

[Grallon]

So, they plan to convince teens that smoking is bad - by associating it with hott oral sex?

I detect a flaw in this plan ... 

No.  The idea is to show how smoking makes one addicted - a slave - an object  Something shocking for a demographic who pisses all over moral lessons.  Though they should have kept to the boy image since we all know a girl kneeling and submissive is every hetero's fantasy; but for guys to imagine themselves as being subjected to submissive oral sex is repellent.





G.

[DGuller]

LOL how retarded. Who do these Greeks think they are? Jews?

Well, if they were, they'd hardly be in such financial trouble now, would they? 

[Zanza]

Basically the condition that Germany gave for joining the Euro was that everybody else kept germany's standards for economic sensibleness when it comes to government debt and inflation. Greece says yes, we'll accept that and we'll benefit from having a sensible currency and then greece spends as normal and lies about it.

If the Euro is going to have future stability then they need to screw over greece and kick them out of the Euro.

One of the agreed upon indicators for economic sensibleness was to have about 2% inflation per year. IIRC, Germany only had that for about one of the ten Euro years so far and always less than that in the other years. Mainly thanks to continued wage depression. That has eroded competitiveness of the other European countries a lot, whereas Germany has become the biggest exporter in the world. So Germany did not keep to the promised economic targets either.

[Martim Silva]

Hard to take seriously anyone who expresses surprise and outrage in learning that Greek public financial accounts were less than 100% Grade A kosher. 

I'm not sure about the Germans. They seem to be forming some kind of new army lately...

[Admiral Yi]

the underlying problem here is that the Greek economy is fundamentally weak; forcing crushing austerity measures on the country is not going to fix that problem.

Weakness (as in low growth and/or low per capita GDP) does not in and of itself lead to huge national debt.

[Viking]

To be fair, both Germany and France were in breach of the Stability and Growth pact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stability_and_Growth_Pact#Member_states_by_SGP_criteria

Agreed, but you don't have Angela Merkel huffing and puffing and demanding 70 bn Euros for somebody who invaded them 65 years ago. The Greeks were particularly devious in their circumventing of the Stability and Growth pact. The breach of the pact can be said to be one of the main causes for the present greek problems, along with explaining why the problems have landed on greece and not on germany.

As a Pro-EU scandinavian (yes they exist) I see the best argument AGAINST joining the EURO that Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal are in it. I want to hitch up to the german and dutch economies, not the runts of the litter.

[Duque de Bragança]

A PASOK prime minister pulling a Kaczynski is very sad, yet not very surprising. On the other hand, it wouldn't work to blame Turkey, no money there...

[Martinus]

So, they plan to convince teens that smoking is bad - by associating it with hott oral sex?

I detect a flaw in this plan ... 

No.  The idea is to show how smoking makes one addicted - a slave - an object  Something shocking for a demographic who pisses all over moral lessons.  Though they should have kept to the boy image since we all know a girl kneeling and submissive is every hetero's fantasy; but for guys to imagine themselves as being subjected to submissive oral sex is repellent.





G.

Don't you find this homophobic, though (serious question). It's not that much different from the conservative US politician who caused outrage recently by saying that we should tell teenage boys that porn will make them gay, because teenage boys hate nothing more than gays.

The Onion's material I posted was meant to satirize that actually. Now it seems the French are going down that route, but rather than protesting (since it essentially portrays gay people, or at least the active party in oral sex, as inferior/detestable), you are praising this as a great ad campaign.

[Malthus]

So, they plan to convince teens that smoking is bad - by associating it with hott oral sex?

I detect a flaw in this plan ... 

No.  The idea is to show how smoking makes one addicted - a slave - an object  Something shocking for a demographic who pisses all over moral lessons.  Though they should have kept to the boy image since we all know a girl kneeling and submissive is every hetero's fantasy; but for guys to imagine themselves as being subjected to submissive oral sex is repellent.

G.

Funny, I interpreted it as that having the chick appeals to the straights and having the dude appeals to the gays. 

Can't do reverse-gender, for the obvious reason that a ciggy is a phallic substitute. Perhaps that young dude blowing a smoke-ring up a business casual skirt?

Anyway, problem here is that more folks associate oral with "hott!" than "OMG humiliating!"