Obama seeks to rid the world of nuclear weapons

[I Killed Kenny]

What if the SU joined NATO? What you think could happen?

[Sheilbh]

And did the French really said that if WP advanced into France they would deploy there one's nukes? Or was this a "suspicion?"

The French never said they wouldn't use nukes first.  I believe they did at some level brief that if one Soviet troop crossed the Rhine then the French would launch everything they had.

[Neil]

Russians.

[Neil]

What if the SU joined NATO? What you think could happen?

The same thing that happened in the regular world.  The only difference would be that NATO would be either an adjunct of the UN or defunct, and the alliance of civilized countries would have a different name.

[Grinning_Colossus]

What if Israel joined the Arab League?

[Razgovory]

What if Israel joined the Arab League?

What if the Giant Ants of Brest-Litovsk joined the EU.

[Grinning_Colossus]

Never gonna happen. The EU is a vertebrates-only club.

[Admiral Yi]

I predict this conference goes badly for the US.

[Razgovory]

Never gonna happen. The EU is a vertebrates-only club.

Lots of spinelessness for a vertbrates only club.

[Grinning_Colossus]

 

[Sheilbh]

I predict this conference goes badly for the US.

Which conference?  What's your definition of good?

[Admiral Yi]

Which conference?  What's your definition of good?

The conference Obama has suggested to discuss nuclear disarmament.  My definition of good is something that advances our interests.

I think it will go poorly because either it will start the ball rolling on true disarmament, which is a mixed blessing for the US, or it will cede the moral high ground to the proliferators.

[Sheilbh]

I think the outlines for the Russian-US deal is already there.  As I say the Russians think it can be and want it to be signed when Obama goes to Moscow on a state deal.  In the UK the press have already started describing the outline of a treaty.  I have a suspicion it's a bit like Israel-Palestine; everyone roughly knows what the deal will look like already.

What's your impression of what the US interests are in this conference?  Do you have any idea of sort of 'red lines' he shouldn't cross (to use the phrase we have every EU summit)?

[Admiral Yi]

I think the outlines for the Russian-US deal is already there.  As I say the Russians think it can be and want it to be signed when Obama goes to Moscow on a state deal.  In the UK the press have already started describing the outline of a treaty.  I have a suspicion it's a bit like Israel-Palestine; everyone roughly knows what the deal will look like already.

What's your impression of what the US interests are in this conference?  Do you have any idea of sort of 'red lines' he shouldn't cross (to use the phrase we have every EU summit)?

I'm not referring to the US/Russia deal.  I'm in favor of that.  What's not to like?

I think the red line has already been crossed by proposing the conference.  By doing so the issue gets altered from a geopolitical one of what do we do about countries aquiring nukes that we think might be used against us to the moral one of if the US has the "right" to posess nukes why don't Iran and NK have that right.

[Barrister]

I think the outlines for the Russian-US deal is already there.  As I say the Russians think it can be and want it to be signed when Obama goes to Moscow on a state deal.  In the UK the press have already started describing the outline of a treaty.  I have a suspicion it's a bit like Israel-Palestine; everyone roughly knows what the deal will look like already.

What's your impression of what the US interests are in this conference?  Do you have any idea of sort of 'red lines' he shouldn't cross (to use the phrase we have every EU summit)?

A nuclear weapons deal?  Or an overall deal?