NCAA 2009

[Valmy]

Uh Valmy, they lost 42-10 to U Dub this year, tells you what kind of team they were

Does beating Arizona and Stanford mean anything?

[citizen k]

Uh Valmy, they lost 42-10 to U Dub this year, tells you what kind of team they were

Does beating Arizona and Stanford mean anything?

They were weak as well.

[sbr]

Utah 37, Cal 27

Was Cal too depressed about ending up in the Poinsettia Bowl to show up?

No Cal was just bad.

[katmai]

Uh Valmy, they lost 42-10 to U Dub this year, tells you what kind of team they were

Does beating Arizona and Stanford mean anything?

Sure it helped them to a 5-4 record in conference.
All i know is they were horrible in their last game before this one, so not surprised by score.

Not to mention that Cal has a history kinda like Va Tech of being hyped till middle of year then falling apart.

[PDH]

Once again, a conference that is "top to bottom the best" has mediocre performances against the Mountain West...and it all gets so easily explained away.

Time to face up to the facts - kick out the ACC or the Big East and invite a REAL top conference in as an AQ.

[grumbler]

Once again, a conference that is "top to bottom the best" has mediocre performances against the Mountain West...and it all gets so easily explained away.

Time to face up to the facts - kick out the ACC or the Big East and invite a REAL top conference in as an AQ.

No one needs to be "kicked out" of something for the MWC to get AQ status.  That qualification just comes from doing it.  The MWC has never been able to hack the qauls, though. 

Personally, I think the better solution would be to have the MWC and WAC champions play on Championship Saturday and the winner gets the autobid.

[katmai]

Once again, a conference that is "top to bottom the best" has mediocre performances against the Mountain West...and it all gets so easily explained away.

Time to face up to the facts - kick out the ACC or the Big East and invite a REAL top conference in as an AQ.

i've never been one to mock the top of the MWC ( I use to see many games living in San Diego).

[OttoVonBismarck]

Once again, a conference that is "top to bottom the best" has mediocre performances against the Mountain West...and it all gets so easily explained away.

Time to face up to the facts - kick out the ACC or the Big East and invite a REAL top conference in as an AQ.

I'm a huge fan of the Mountain West and would love to see a system in which they could get in as AQs.  However, I also don't think the MWC is clearly better, year-to-year, than any current AQ conference.  The Big East/ACC have the most serious issues in terms of football quality, but they are still, top-to-bottom, year-in-year out, better than the MWC or the WAC.

Plus, the ACC and the Big East have too many "name" programs to ever see them lose AQ status. 

[Barrister]

Once again, a conference that is "top to bottom the best" has mediocre performances against the Mountain West...and it all gets so easily explained away.

Time to face up to the facts - kick out the ACC or the Big East and invite a REAL top conference in as an AQ.

I'm a huge fan of the Mountain West and would love to see a system in which they could get in as AQs.  However, I also don't think the MWC is clearly better, year-to-year, than any current AQ conference.  The Big East/ACC have the most serious issues in terms of football quality, but they are still, top-to-bottom, year-in-year out, better than the MWC or the WAC.

Plus, the ACC and the Big East have too many "name" programs to ever see them lose AQ status.

ACC has some big names, but Big East?  Does Syracuse, WVU, and/or Rutgers qualify as big names?

[Admiral Yi]

Arent' Boston College and Pitt Big East?

[Barrister]

Arent' Boston College and Pitt Big East?

Yup.  Are those big names?

[MadBurgerMaker]

Yup.  Are those big names?

Pitt is (edit: in the Big East, and is a fairly big name).  Boston College is in the ACC (but is also a fairly big name).

[PDH]

The real argument is that the Big Names were famous 40 years ago, 30 years ago...and teams like Utah, TCU (who is only now returning to prominence), and maybe BYU (who does have the world's most tainted National Championship) are seen as not having earned their chops.

College Football needs affirmative action.

[MadImmortalMan]

Nevada is screwed. Bet against them.

[Neil]

How can any national championship possibly be more tainted than any other, given the way in which they are assigned?