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Started by Ed Anger, April 04, 2009, 01:36:06 PM

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katmai

God does berkut still have his panties in a bunch? :rolleyes:
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Ed Anger

Quote from: Berkut on November 10, 2009, 03:59:38 PM
Syracuse basketball does the same thing. They don't fucking play *anyone* OOC!

I hope Miller sticks to the Arizona tradition of playing (relatively) brutal OOC schedules. Of course, whether he can continue the Lute Olson tradition of winning a lot of those brutal OOC games is another story entirely.

I enjoyed that Div II school beating them.
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dps

Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2009, 04:06:13 PM
Quote from: Berkut on November 10, 2009, 12:31:44 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2009, 12:14:38 PM
Would PAC-10 refs have given LSU that interception?  I think that alone should determine whose conference is better.

Don't get me started.

The last thing we need is an argument hanging our hats on teh quality of Pac-10 officiating.

Fucking Washington.

Well...when the SEC refs call this interception incomplete:

I think the PAC-10 refs could give them a run for their money.

Officiating seems to get worse every year.  It's probably not really getting worse, but every year there are some real head-scratchers, especially when you factor in instant replay.  Look at your pic.  The only official in it has a good angle to see if the feet are in-bounds or not, but he's a good distance away, and his line-of-sight is at least partially screened by another player.  Other officials may have an unobscured LOS, but they're at least as far away, and won't have a good angle.  You can see how they might get it wrong on the field, but there's no excuse for replay to blow it.

Eddie Teach

Did he bobble that catch at all?

But yeah, the still does appear to be showing a catch in bounds.
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Berkut

Quote from: dps on November 10, 2009, 04:24:06 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2009, 04:06:13 PM
Quote from: Berkut on November 10, 2009, 12:31:44 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2009, 12:14:38 PM
Would PAC-10 refs have given LSU that interception?  I think that alone should determine whose conference is better.

Don't get me started.

The last thing we need is an argument hanging our hats on teh quality of Pac-10 officiating.

Fucking Washington.

Well...when the SEC refs call this interception incomplete:

I think the PAC-10 refs could give them a run for their money.

Officiating seems to get worse every year.  It's probably not really getting worse, but every year there are some real head-scratchers, especially when you factor in instant replay.  Look at your pic.  The only official in it has a good angle to see if the feet are in-bounds or not, but he's a good distance away, and his line-of-sight is at least partially screened by another player.  Other officials may have an unobscured LOS, but they're at least as far away, and won't have a good angle.  You can see how they might get it wrong on the field, but there's no excuse for replay to blow it.

You cannot tell if that pass is complete or not just by a picture.

Or rather, a picture can tell if a pass in incomplete, but not if it is complete.
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dps

Quote from: Berkut on November 10, 2009, 04:39:04 PM
Quote from: dps on November 10, 2009, 04:24:06 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2009, 04:06:13 PM
Quote from: Berkut on November 10, 2009, 12:31:44 PM
Quote from: Valmy on November 10, 2009, 12:14:38 PM
Would PAC-10 refs have given LSU that interception?  I think that alone should determine whose conference is better.

Don't get me started.

The last thing we need is an argument hanging our hats on teh quality of Pac-10 officiating.

Fucking Washington.

Well...when the SEC refs call this interception incomplete:

I think the PAC-10 refs could give them a run for their money.

Officiating seems to get worse every year.  It's probably not really getting worse, but every year there are some real head-scratchers, especially when you factor in instant replay.  Look at your pic.  The only official in it has a good angle to see if the feet are in-bounds or not, but he's a good distance away, and his line-of-sight is at least partially screened by another player.  Other officials may have an unobscured LOS, but they're at least as far away, and won't have a good angle.  You can see how they might get it wrong on the field, but there's no excuse for replay to blow it.

You cannot tell if that pass is complete or not just by a picture.

Or rather, a picture can tell if a pass in incomplete, but not if it is complete.

I wasn't necessarily saying that it was incomplete or not, or that the officials blew it or not.  What I was getting at was that sometimes, the officials on the field aren't going to be able to tell, no matter how good they are, and there's nothing really wrong with that (unless you're a fan of a team on the short end of a bad call, of course :)).  But replay was put in place to handle those situations, and all too often, the replay official still doesn't get them right.

Berkut

Quote from: dps on November 10, 2009, 04:54:10 PM

I wasn't necessarily saying that it was incomplete or not, or that the officials blew it or not.  What I was getting at was that sometimes, the officials on the field aren't going to be able to tell, no matter how good they are, and there's nothing really wrong with that (unless you're a fan of a team on the short end of a bad call, of course :)).  But replay was put in place to handle those situations, and all too often, the replay official still doesn't get them right.

No argument here.

The problem is that sometimes replay doesn't help. I watched the youtube replays of this, and even afterwards I am not sure enough that had I been the replay official, I would have overturned the call on the field.

When did the receiver establish control of the ball? It looks like he catches it, starts to tuck it, then it kind of slips out a little but (he is well OOB by now), then he secures it again.

I dunno - I am not sure I could overturn that call no matter which way the original call went. I would say if I had to make the initial call based on the replay, that is a catch.

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CountDeMoney

Berkut and his fucking Left Coast bias.

sbr

Berkurt seems to be very reasonable and made many valid points (unless he slipped mention of LaGarret Blount in there I missed), everyone else is way off base.  :yes:

CountDeMoney

Quote from: sbr on November 10, 2009, 06:36:48 PM
Berkurt seems to be very reasonable and made many valid points (unless he slipped mention of LaGarret Blount in there I missed), everyone else is way off base.  :yes:

Fuck you, Duck boy. 

MadBurgerMaker

Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 10, 2009, 07:23:30 PM
Quote from: sbr on November 10, 2009, 06:36:48 PM
Berkurt seems to be very reasonable and made many valid points (unless he slipped mention of LaGarret Blount in there I missed), everyone else is way off base.  :yes:

Fuck you, Duck boy.

:lol:

katmai

Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 10, 2009, 07:23:30 PM
Quote from: sbr on November 10, 2009, 06:36:48 PM
Berkurt seems to be very reasonable and made many valid points (unless he slipped mention of LaGarret Blount in there I missed), everyone else is way off base.  :yes:

Fuck you, Duck boy.

Why are you defending the SEC, you big-east/acc turncoat!
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Admiral Yi

Ohio and Buffalo are playing right now.  I didn't even know there was an Ohio.

PDH

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 10, 2009, 08:37:59 PM
Ohio and Buffalo are playing right now.  I didn't even know there was an Ohio.
It is a state.
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