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Started by Ed Anger, April 04, 2009, 01:36:06 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 16, 2009, 12:33:36 AM
:lol: Actually, that's really not that bad as far as OOC schedules go.  Not a single 1AA tune up team on there.   And keep in mind the Wyoming game is only there because Arkansas canceled (or something..I can't seem to recall exactly what happened with that atm).  I, for one, was happy to see Wyoming play for the first time though.

The Wyoming series replaced Utah.  It was UL-Monroe who replaced Arkansas :P
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Ed Anger

Just mock whoever Timmay is rooting for Val. If you can pin the fucker down.
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Valmy

Quote from: Ed Anger on November 16, 2009, 09:31:14 AM
Just mock whoever Timmay is rooting for Val. If you can pin the fucker down.

It's hard when he has so many.  He is so happy about Alabama and TCU he doesn't really care USC and Notre Dame lost. :(
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Timmay makes me sick.  :mad:
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Valmy

Oh by the way glad to see Brutus in the Rose Bowl again.  The first one since Ohio State ripped the heart out of Arizona State way back in the day.
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Quote from: Valmy on November 16, 2009, 10:02:37 AM
Oh by the way glad to see Brutus in the Rose Bowl again.  The first one since Ohio State ripped the heart out of Arizona State way back in the day.

Ahhh, Jake the Flake. memories.
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dps

Quote from: Valmy on November 16, 2009, 09:05:05 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on November 16, 2009, 12:10:30 AM
I will say Texas OOC competition is am embarrassment to such a degree I'm shocked a Texas fan can show his face in this thread with any degree of arrogance.  UL-Monroe, Wyoming, UTEP, and UCF.  :rolleyes:

We had Utah and Arkansas and UTEP and UCF as our OOC schedule but Utah and Arkansas dumped us and Texas had to scramble and found Wyoming and UL-Monroe to fill in.  It is especially bizarre since Arkansas was going to be hosting Texas but preferred a game in Jerry World against the Ags.  I have been pissed about the schedule ever since it was released but come on man, I am not going to flagellate myself in contrition all year begging for forgiveness.  I have admitted as such all year on this board...what do you want me to do?  Be ashamed Texas is playing great and 10-0?  Please.

The OOC schedule sucks and I am not happy about it.  I am proud of the way they play defense I guess I fail to see how that is "arrogance" being happy my favorite team is playing well.

It's also not Texas' fault that the rest of their conference has been mediocre this year.  I'm not trying to rip Texas for that;  it's just that the weak conference and the laughable OOC schedule make it hard to try to figure out just how good they are.  We know that they're good, but there's little basis to try and figure out how they should rank compared to the other undefeated teams.

Valmy

Quote from: dps on November 16, 2009, 12:44:14 PM
It's also not Texas' fault that the rest of their conference has been mediocre this year.  I'm not trying to rip Texas for that;  it's just that the weak conference and the laughable OOC schedule make it hard to try to figure out just how good they are.  We know that they're good, but there's little basis to try and figure out how they should rank compared to the other undefeated teams.

This is a year of mediocre teams.  Even if Texas had beaten USC early on how much could we really tell by that win now?  Bama and Florida have had their struggles with mediocre teams themselves.  I think it is pretty much a crapshoot as to who should be the best team.  It is like 2007 but without the losing.  Very different sort of season from last year.

The Heisman race is especially meh this year.  Nobody wants to win the dang thing, if McCoy or Tebow get it it will be more of a lifetime achievement award because nobody had a great season.  Ingram would not even be on the watch list normally but if he gets it it would be a perfect symbol for how rather unexciting the season has been as a whole.  I mean it has been pretty fun as a Texas fan I just mean nationally.
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Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 16, 2009, 12:33:36 AM

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Oh, now that's just cool.  :cool:

Maybe I'll go.

Also, would the Fighting Irish be considered offensive? Like the Indians/Redskins/Seminoles nonsense?   :P
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OttoVonBismarck

Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on November 16, 2009, 03:15:58 AM
Quote from: dps on November 16, 2009, 03:14:25 AM
It may not be weird, but it is pathetic.  And that it's not considered weird is even more pathetic.

No, it's still kinda weird.  It's just not something to get all worked up about.  And it's also not something to be holding against Texas, at least this year heh, since they scheduled the Pigs.  Shit happens.  I mean, I guess they should have Florida or someone on speed dial in case UCLA poons out next year, but I'm not really going to hold it against them and be all pissed off if they don't and end up having to play...North Texas or something.

Edit:  :lol: UTEP and UCF both have Ws against a top 25 team now.  Poor Houston.  Watch Wyoming take out TCU this next week.

I don't consider as relevant the circumstances behind the schedule, only what it actually is.  Once you start saying, "but Texas schedule Arkansas!" you open a huge can of worms because every school has stuff like that come up. 

I actually explicitly said I don't hold SOS against anyone, because it is well outside of a team's control.  Even the AD that schedules teams can't know 3-4+ years in advance how good a team will be in a given year.

What I will say is sans any sort of playoff I can only say that voters should take the relative SOS into account, which I think they do to a degree but only when comparing teams with similar records.  For example a 12-0 Texas would be higher ranked than a 12-0 Boise State (which has the 109th SOS in the country, almost the very easiest in all of FBS.)  Where things fall apart is a team that is 11-1 with the hardest schedule in the country may end up ranked lower than a team that is 12-0 with the 40th SOS in the country.

As it stands once the SEC is settled I think it's obvious the winner of the SEC Championship goes and Texas has played a tougher schedule than any other undefeated team (if they lose it all breaks open, though.)  So the SOS discussion is relatively meaningless unless Texas loses.

MadBurgerMaker

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Quote from: Valmy on November 16, 2009, 12:53:48 PM
The Heisman race is especially meh this year.

I've been liking to watch Keenum's stats every time the whole "race for the Heisman" thing pops up during games.  They go up exponentially every time, and stand out hilariously.  Something like:

McCoy                              Tebow                   Keenum                  Ingram
71% completion               71%                       65%                       6.7 ypc
2,554 yards                     1,832                      4,548                     1,297 yards
20 total TDs                     20 total TDs            38 TDs                   14 TDs

:P   The next time you see it, if they've played a game, it'll have gone up by 500 yards and 5 touchdowns. 

Edit:
QuoteThe Wyoming series replaced Utah.  It was UL-Monroe who replaced Arkansas :P

Oh hey forgot about Utah. 

MadBurgerMaker

Central Michigan - Ball State tonight.  Woo.  Also Colorado and Oklahoma State.

Berkut there's an interview coming up with Arizona's "most important player" soon on ESPN2 (College Football Live).

stjaba

I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but this week features 0 top 25 matchups.  :zzz This has been a relatively boring season.

I may disagree with Berkut et al. regarding the stregnth of the Pac-10, but at least the race is exciting. One unfortunate side effect of the SEC's schedule is that if both teams have locked up the division, the rest of the season is anti-climatic. The only remaining drama is seeing if 1 out of Texas, Florida, or Alabama is upset. I know Texas plays Texas A&M, as well as the Big 12 North winner. Florida only has FSU to worry about, and Alabama has Auburn. I predict that the voters will punish a UF or 'Bama upset and take them out of the national championship game even if they win the SEC. The big argument would be who would take their place.

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Quote from: Valmy on November 16, 2009, 09:56:35 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 16, 2009, 09:31:14 AM
Just mock whoever Timmay is rooting for Val. If you can pin the fucker down.

It's hard when he has so many.  He is so happy about Alabama and TCU he doesn't really care USC and Notre Dame lost. :(
I never cared about USC, I just preferred them to Texas.

I do care about Notre Dame. :weep:
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Hey Tim, you been able to watch any games in Japan?
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