Obama meets the Republican Caucus

[Fate]

There was a massive amount of time invested by the administration in attempting to gain the vote of Snowe, Collins, and Grassley on health care. Hans is talking out of his ass (again).

[Strix]

There was a massive amount of time invested by the administration in attempting to gain the vote of Snowe, Collins, and Grassley on health care. Hans is talking out of his ass (again).

He isn't. I have seen it mentioned time and again on CNN and other such news outlets about the Democrats having closed door meetings without their Republican counterparts.

[The Brain]

Will he also meet the Democratic Fig?

[Martinus]

they're just bent on crushing the Democrats

A worthy cause.

Awww, breeder losers. The Republican most faithful supporters. 

[Razgovory]

There was a massive amount of time invested by the administration in attempting to gain the vote of Snowe, Collins, and Grassley on health care. Hans is talking out of his ass (again).

He isn't. I have seen it mentioned time and again on CNN and other such news outlets about the Democrats having closed door meetings without their Republican counterparts.

What sort of meetings?

[Admiral Yi]

What sort of meetings?

Meetings to reconcile the Senate versions of health care, meetings to reconcile the Senate and House versions.

[Sheilbh]

What sort of meetings?

Meetings to reconcile the Senate versions of health care, meetings to reconcile the Senate and House versions.

Surely having Republicans there would just let them try and play the wrecker - given that all of them with the exception of Cao oppose the bill in either form.  Let Cao in, of course.

[Admiral Yi]

Surely having Republicans there would just let them try and play the wrecker - given that all of them with the exception of Cao oppose the bill in either form.  Let Cao in, of course.

A not unreasonable assumption.  Of course if you shut the other party out before they have a chance to wreck it it's less clear which side will get blamed by swing voters as being more partisan.  That's one of the reasons I thought Obama's gambit at the GOP retreat was so interesting.  He in effect offered to throw Pelosi under the bus and split the difference on partisan guilt in exchange for some GOP help.

Who's Cao?

[Ed Anger]

they're just bent on crushing the Democrats

A worthy cause.

Awww, breeder losers. The Republican most faithful supporters. 

You are still a Polack. I win. 

[Sheilbh]

A not unreasonable assumption.  Of course if you shut the other party out before they have a chance to wreck it it's less clear which side will get blamed by swing voters as being more partisan.  That's one of the reasons I thought Obama's gambit at the GOP retreat was so interesting.  He in effect offered to throw Pelosi under the bus and split the difference on partisan guilt in exchange for some GOP help.

What would Republicans add to a conference about a bill they, with one exception, entirely oppose?

Who's Cao?

Joseph Cao.  He was the Republican who won William Jefferson's seat. 

[Admiral Yi]

What would Republicans add to a conference about a bill they, with one exception, entirely oppose?

What does France add to a conference about Iraq?

[Eddie Teach]

Joseph Cao.  He was the Republican who won William Jefferson's seat.

New Orleans? So he's probably going to be booted next round regardless.

[Fireblade]

I honestly don't know who Hans is fooling. He's been spouting the same lies and horseshit since, what, 2004? Does anyone seriously care about what he says?

[Jacob]

I honestly don't know who Hans is fooling. He's been spouting the same lies and horseshit since, what, 2004? Does anyone seriously care about what he says?

Himself?  Maybe?

[Neil]

Is Hans less credible than people like Spellus, his cross-aisle equivalent?  I don't really see it.