Obama to double down if Brown wins.

[Martinus]

What's funny that Massachussets is the state with a health care system already much like the one proposed by the democrat bill. I guess the fuckers who live there simply don't want the same they already have for the rest of the county. 

[grumbler]

What's funny that Massachussets is the state with a health care system already much like the one proposed by the democrat bill. I guess the fuckers who live there simply don't want to pay for the same system they already have for the rest of the county. 

Correct, as corrected

[derspiess]

Defeating Reid would be a real mistake on the part of the Republicans! 

It would be a great publicity coup to be able to knock off the Majority Leader, and I know I would get a kick out of it.

But otherwise yeah, you're right.

[derspiess]

Watching the movie "Casino" gave me a newfound respect for Reid.  It takes balls to take on the mafia, especially when faced with constant death threats.

I can't help but respect him for his life story, having grown up in some of the worst possible conditions to rise to Senate Majority Leader. 

Politically, however, I really can't say I respect him much.

[Admiral Yi]

In case anyone was unaware, one way they could avoid a filibuster on health care is for the House to accept the Senate version (already passed there).  But Pelosi just said on ABC that she doesn't have the votes in the House to vote in the Senate version.

[alfred russel]

In case anyone was unaware, one way they could avoid a filibuster on health care is for the House to accept the Senate version (already passed there).  But Pelosi just said on ABC that she doesn't have the votes in the House to vote in the Senate version.

That is really disappointing. Unless some miracle can happen now, it seems as though health care is dead at least until 2013.

[Fate]

In case anyone was unaware, one way they could avoid a filibuster on health care is for the House to accept the Senate version (already passed there).  But Pelosi just said on ABC that she doesn't have the votes in the House to vote in the Senate version.

That is really disappointing. Unless some miracle can happen now, it seems as though health care is dead at least until 2013.

I would hope 2022 at the very least. The seeds of the 2010 and 2012 Boehner Revolution have been sown.

[Neil]

That is really disappointing. Unless some miracle can happen now, it seems as though health care is dead at least until 2013.

I can only hope that Republicans win a supermajority, and use that power to bring in proper socialized medicine.

[alfred russel]

That is really disappointing. Unless some miracle can happen now, it seems as though health care is dead at least until 2013.

I can only hope that Republicans win a supermajority, and use that power to bring in proper socialized medicine.

Considering how weak the democrats were in Bush's first term, I think we got a glimpse of what a republican supermajority would look like. It doesn't include socialized medicine, but does have some nice programs to aid pharmaceuticals.

[KRonn]

That is really disappointing. Unless some miracle can happen now, it seems as though health care is dead at least until 2013.

I can only hope that Republicans win a supermajority, and use that power to bring in proper socialized medicine.

Considering how weak the democrats were in Bush's first term, I think we got a glimpse of what a republican supermajority would look like. It doesn't include socialized medicine, but does have some nice programs to aid pharmaceuticals.

I think the Repubs did try for some health care changes, small changes at some reform. I don't remember it but read or saw it on the news recently. Along with attempting Social Security reform, which also will be one of the next big things to hit us upside the head.

[KRonn]

Guys, Dem Coakley was 20-30 points up at one point. She won the Dem primaries pretty easily. Then lost her lead big time. I don't just blame Coakley though. The national scene issues played into this election quite heavily.

I don't see this Mass election as some affirmation of the Repubs. Repubs need to realize that too. People seem to be angry at business as usual and because the Dems are in big control now, running things with what is seen as a heavy hand, with all the political, budgetary turmoil going on, the Dems take the big hit. People wanted someone different, not the same old Dem, as people voiced annoyance at local politics and attach that to national Dem politics. Doesn't mean liking the Repubs but the Repubs are the only other real choice and Brown is seen as a very likeable choice.

[Hansmeister]

What's funny that Massachussets is the state with a health care system already much like the one proposed by the democrat bill. I guess the fuckers who live there simply don't want the same they already have for the rest of the county. 

And the people of Massachussets dislike Romneycare and don't want to see it replicated elsewhere.  Nor do they want to pay higher taxes to export their failed system.

[Neil]

Considering how weak the democrats were in Bush's first term, I think we got a glimpse of what a republican supermajority would look like. It doesn't include socialized medicine, but does have some nice programs to aid pharmaceuticals.

Only Nixon can go to China.

[grumbler]

In case anyone was unaware, one way they could avoid a filibuster on health care is for the House to accept the Senate version (already passed there).  But Pelosi just said on ABC that she doesn't have the votes in the House to vote in the Senate version.

The other way is to simply fund what can be funded from the common elements of the two bills (ie make it purely a budget reconciliation) and that also cannot be filibustered.

[Hansmeister]

That is really disappointing. Unless some miracle can happen now, it seems as though health care is dead at least until 2013.

I can only hope that Republicans win a supermajority, and use that power to bring in proper socialized medicine.

Considering how weak the democrats were in Bush's first term, I think we got a glimpse of what a republican supermajority would look like. It doesn't include socialized medicine, but does have some nice programs to aid pharmaceuticals.

I think the Repubs did try for some health care changes, small changes at some reform. I don't remember it but read or saw it on the news recently. Along with attempting Social Security reform, which also will be one of the next big things to hit us upside the head.

They did create Health Savings Accounts, which currently enroll about 6 million people.  A far superior idea to the retarded Obamacare proposals.  Create tax credits for HSAs, allow interstate commerce for health insurance, and add tort reform and you would end up with a market-based system that would significantly reduce health care costs.  unlike Obamacare that reduced health care while simultaneuously increasing costs.