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Started by garbon, January 13, 2010, 01:24:24 AM

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Strix

Quote from: crazy canuck on January 13, 2010, 03:39:34 PM
That is easily proven wrong.  If marijuana is so easy to grow why do they buy it from drug dealers and in turn return huge profits to the gangs that control the market.

Also, if marijuana is so easy to grow then its cost to obtain it legally after decriminalization will be relatively low since it will no longer have the extra costs associated with growing and distributing an illegal product.

Marijuana is a bulk product. It's not a small plant. It is also easily recognized by those who deal with it on a daily basis. People buy it from drug dealers because it's easier than worrying about getting arrested for growing marijuana or having your friends steal your plants when you aren't there. There is little honor among potheads.

I hate to repeat myself but....if the government wants to tax marijuana than it cannot decriminalize the manufacture of marijuana or it will gain very little revenue because there will be very little sales (or a lot of illegal sales). Yes, it will drive down the price of marijuana because it will be so easy to get. It will create whole new sets of laws and rules and government organizations to deal with the illegal manufacture, distribution, and sales of marijuana.

The whole idea that taxing marijuana will provide revenue for the state and lower costs associated with it's illegal use is hyperbole at best. It's just an attempt to appeal to the greed and avarice of politicians.

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garbon

Quote from: Strix on January 13, 2010, 06:08:06 PM
having your friends steal your plants when you aren't there. There is little honor among potheads.

:rolleyes:
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crazy canuck

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Quote from: Strix on January 13, 2010, 06:08:06 PM
Marijuana is a bulk product. It's not a small plant. It is also easily recognized by those who deal with it on a daily basis. People buy it from drug dealers because it's easier than worrying about getting arrested for growing marijuana or having your friends steal your plants when you aren't there. There is little honor among potheads.

Marijuana can be a bulk product.  But isnt necessarily so.  Around here there are all kinds of grow ops being busted that only produce hundreds of plants (ie small operations run on a small scale).  And it is easy to recognize by pretty much everyone ;).  People buy it from drug dealers because it is easier then growing for their own consumption.  Also, given media reports, the quality of the pot grown here is better then what a amateur grower could do.

QuoteI hate to repeat myself but....if the government wants to tax marijuana than it cannot decriminalize the manufacture of marijuana or it will gain very little revenue because there will be very little sales (or a lot of illegal sales). Yes, it will drive down the price of marijuana because it will be so easy to get. It will create whole new sets of laws and rules and government organizations to deal with the illegal manufacture, distribution, and sales of marijuana.

The whole idea that taxing marijuana will provide revenue for the state and lower costs associated with it's illegal use is hyperbole at best. It's just an attempt to appeal to the greed and avarice of politicians
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I still have no idea why you think there would be little sale of legal pot when there are huge sales of illegal pot.  The demand will still be there and if your suspicion of even more people wanting it is true then the demand will go up.  I have no idea how you think this demand will be filled if not by legal producers of pot that can be taxed by government.


edit:  I can make cheap wine at home.  But I dont.  Why would it be any different for pot.

edit2: Its easy for people here in BC to grow their own plants.   The police dont bother with it unless the number is in the hundreds.  But still there is a healthy market for pot.




Neil

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Caliga

Quote from: Barrister on January 13, 2010, 03:34:01 PM
We need saskganesh to chime in on this one.

I still think alcohol is easier to make.
Alcohol is easy to make, yes.  But making high quality alcoholic beverages people will want to buy isn't as easy.  I suppose you could always concentrate on the malt liquor market if you want an easy-to-produce alcoholic product.
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PRC

Quote from: Strix on January 13, 2010, 06:08:06 PM
Marijuana is a bulk product.
Only if it's grown in bulk.

Quote from: Strix on January 13, 2010, 06:08:06 PM
It's not a small plant.
Yes it is.

Quote from: Strix on January 13, 2010, 06:08:06 PM
It is also easily recognized by those who deal with it on a daily basis.
So is bullshit.

Quote from: Strix on January 13, 2010, 06:08:06 PM
People buy it from drug dealers because it's easier than worrying about getting arrested for growing marijuana or having your friends steal your plants when you aren't there.
No, they buy it from drug dealers because that doesn't take as long as harvest.  The ideal situation is to have harvest just when supply dries up.  Growing more pot eliminates drug dealers.

Quote from: Strix on January 13, 2010, 06:08:06 PM
There is little honor among potheads.
There is little honour among douchebags.
 

Strix

Quote from: PRC on January 16, 2010, 12:06:51 AM
Quote from: Strix on January 13, 2010, 06:08:06 PM
Marijuana is a bulk product.
Only if it's grown in bulk.

Quote from: Strix on January 13, 2010, 06:08:06 PM
It's not a small plant.
Yes it is.

Quote from: Strix on January 13, 2010, 06:08:06 PM
It is also easily recognized by those who deal with it on a daily basis.
So is bullshit.

Quote from: Strix on January 13, 2010, 06:08:06 PM
People buy it from drug dealers because it's easier than worrying about getting arrested for growing marijuana or having your friends steal your plants when you aren't there.
No, they buy it from drug dealers because that doesn't take as long as harvest.  The ideal situation is to have harvest just when supply dries up.  Growing more pot eliminates drug dealers.

Quote from: Strix on January 13, 2010, 06:08:06 PM
There is little honor among potheads.
There is little honour among douchebags.


I am sure your friends don't appreciate you stealing their plants.
"I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." - Margaret Thatcher

PRC

Quote from: Strix on January 16, 2010, 02:24:06 AM
I am sure your friends don't appreciate you stealing their plants.
Of course they appreciate me not stealing their plants.

Neil

I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

PRC

Quote from: Neil on January 16, 2010, 07:08:10 AM
PRC is a drug addict?  How disappointing.

Nah, I haven't smoked a joint in three years.  Besides... habitual use of marijuana may inhibit ambition, but unlike alcohol it isn't destructive.

garbon

I don't know, I heard about some studies about its longterm effects on the brain.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.