Filibusters, Supermajorities and the Constitution

Started by jimmy olsen, January 11, 2010, 08:36:51 AM

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jimmy olsen

The use of the filibuster has gone through the roof this decade, and I don't see that changing much, no matter who's in charge of the senate despite the ranting and raving of the majority party. They're simply to scared of what the other side will do next time they're in power without the filibuster to hold them back. Still, it would definitely be a plus if they changed the filibuster rules so that senators actually had to get out their on the floor and talk 'till they drop.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/11/opinion/11geoghegan.html?ref=opinion
QuoteMr. Smith Rewrites the Constitution

By THOMAS GEOGHEGAN
Published: January 10, 2010

ABOUT the Senate, a college professor of mine used to say, "One day, the Supreme Court will declare it unconstitutional." He was joking, I think.

But the Senate, as it now operates, really has become unconstitutional: as we saw during the recent health care debacle, a 60-vote majority is required to overcome a filibuster and pass any contested bill. The founders, though, were dead set against supermajorities as a general rule, and the ever-present filibuster threat has made the Senate a more extreme check on the popular will than they ever intended.

This change to the Constitution was not the result of, say, a formal amendment, but a procedural rule adopted in 1975: a revision of Senate Rule 22, which was the old cloture rule. Before 1975, it took two-thirds of the Senate to end a filibuster, but it was the "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" filibuster: if senators wanted to stop a vote, they had to bring in the cots and the coffee and read from Grandma's recipe for chicken soup until, unshaven, they keeled over from their own rhetorical exhaust.

For the record, nothing like Senate Rule 22 appears in the Constitution, nor was there unlimited debate until Vice President Aaron Burr presided over the Senate in the early 180os. In 1917, after a century of chaos, the Senate put in the old Rule 22 to stop unlimited filibusters. Because it was about stopping real, often distressing, floor debate, one might have been able to defend that rule under Article I, Section 5 of the Constitution, which says, "Each house may determine the rule of its proceedings."

As revised in 1975, Senate Rule 22 seemed to be an improvement: it required 60 senators, not 67, to stop floor debate. But there also came a significant change in de facto Senate practice: to maintain a filibuster, senators no longer had to keep talking. Nowadays, they don't even have to start; they just say they will, and that's enough. Senators need not be on the floor at all. They can be at home watching Jimmy Stewart on cable. Senate Rule 22 now exists to cut off what are ghost filibusters, disembodied debates.

As a result, the supermajority vote no longer deserves any protection under Article I, Section 5 — if it ever did at all. It is instead a revision of Article I itself: not used to cut off debate, but to decide in effect whether to enact a law. The filibuster votes, which once occurred perhaps seven or eight times a whole Congressional session, now happen more than 100 times a term. But this routine use of supermajority voting is, at worst, unconstitutional and, at best, at odds with the founders' intent.

Here's why. First, the Constitution explicitly requires supermajorities only in a few special cases: ratifying treaties and constitutional amendments, overriding presidential vetoes, expelling members and for impeachments. With so many lawyers among them, the founders knew and operated under the maxim "expressio unius est exclusio alterius" — the express mention of one thing excludes all others. But one need not leave it at a maxim. In the Federalist Papers, every time Alexander Hamilton or John Jay defends a particular supermajority rule, he does so at length and with an obvious sense of guilt over his departure from majority rule.

Second, Article I, Section 3, expressly says that the vice president as the presiding officer of the Senate should cast the deciding vote when senators are "equally divided." The procedural filibuster does an end run around this constitutional requirement, which presumed that on the truly contested bills there would be ties. With supermajority voting, the Senate is never "equally divided" on the big, contested issues of our day, so that it is a rogue senator, and not the vice president, who casts the deciding vote.

The procedural filibuster effectively disenfranchises the vice president, eliminating as it does one of the office's only two constitutional functions. Yet the founders very consciously intended for the vice president, as part of the checks and balances system, to play this tie-breaking role — that is why Federalist No. 68 so specifically argued against a sitting member of the Senate being the presiding officer in place of the vice president.

Third, Article I pointedly mandates at least one rule of proceeding, namely, that a majority of senators (and House members, for that matter) will constitute a quorum. Article I, Section 5 states in part that "a majority of each shall constitute a majority to do business." Of course, in requiring a simple majority for a quorum, the founders were concerned about no-shows for a host of reasons — not least of all because the first legislators had to travel great distances by stagecoach.
Published: January 10, 2010

But the bigger reason for the rule was to keep a minority from walking out and thereby blocking a majority vote. In Federalist No. 75, Hamilton dismissed a supermajority rule for a quorum thus: "All provisions which require more than a majority of any body to its resolutions have a direct tendency to embarrass the operations of the government and an indirect one to subject the sense of the majority to that of the minority."
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It would be illogical for the Constitution to preclude a supermajority rule with respect to a quorum while allowing it on an ad hoc and more convenient basis any time a minority wanted to block a vote. Yet that is essentially what Senate Rule 22 achieves on any bill that used to require a majority vote.

So on the health care bill, as on so many other things, we now have to take what a minority of an inherently unrepresentative body will give us. Forty-one senators from our 21 smallest states — just over 10 percent of our population — can block bills dealing not just with health care but with global warming and hazards that threaten the whole planet. Individual senators now use the filibuster, or the threat of it, as a kind of personal veto, and that power seems to have warped their behavior, encouraging grandstanding and worse.

What can be done about the procedural filibuster? There are several promising lines of attack.

If the House passed a resolution condemning the use of the procedural filibuster, it might begin to strip the supermajority of its spurious legitimacy. It's the House that has been the great victim of the filibuster, and at least with such a resolution that chamber could express the grievance of the people as a whole against this usurpation by a minority in the Senate.

The president of the Senate, the vice president himself, could issue an opinion from the chair that the filibuster is unconstitutional. Our first vice presidents, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, felt a serious obligation to resolve the ties and tangles of an evenly divided Senate, and they would not have shrunk from such a challenge.

We citizens could also demand that our parties stop financially supporting senators who are committed to the filibuster, and we ourselves could deprive them of fund-raising dollars.

And we needn't rule out the possibility of a Supreme Court case. Surely, the court would not allow the Senate to ignore either the obvious intent of the Constitution.

Whether any such approach works, the founders would have expected us to do something about this unconstitutional filibuster. In Federalist No. 75, Hamilton denounced the use of supermajority rule in these prophetic words: "The history of every political establishment in which this principle has prevailed is a history of impotence, perplexity and disorder." That is a suitable epitaph for what has happened to the Senate.


Thomas Geoghegan, a lawyer, is the author of "See You in Court: How the Right Made America a Lawsuit Nation."
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Fate

Why should the filibuster change?

I do not support the notion of a Republican 50 + VP majority being able to repeal the upcoming health reform bill or pass a bill privatizing social security.

Admiral Yi

How odd the NYT didn't publish this article when the Democrats were in the minority and filibustered a billion judicial nominees.

Faeelin

The actual solution is to get rid of the Senate, because it's an inherently undemocratic institution.

Fate

In the main stream Republican blogs (e.g. Redstate) you'll see there's a huge constituency for repealing the 17th amendment.

God knows why considering that a majority of state legislatures are under Democrat control currently (and have been historically).


Fate

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 11, 2010, 08:56:49 AM
How odd the NYT didn't publish this article when the Democrats were in the minority and filibustered a billion judicial nominees.

Was there really sufficient space to do justice to that story? Democrats were seeking retribution because many of those seats were vacant for Bush to fill because Republicans filibustered Clinton's nominees.

Martinus

America is a Republic, not a Democracy. It was envisaged as a Republic and it should stay a Republic. Democracies are fucked up.

Faeelin

Quote from: Martinus on January 11, 2010, 09:08:55 AM
America is a Republic, not a Democracy. It was envisaged as a Republic and it should stay a Republic. Democracies are fucked up.

Eh. Leaving aside that debate, you can create a Republic which doesn't give greater representation to some people based on lines on a map.

grumbler

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 11, 2010, 08:56:49 AM
How odd the NYT didn't publish this article when the Democrats were in the minority and filibustered a billion judicial nominees.
I have warned you  a million times  not to exaggerate! :mad:
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grumbler

Quote from: Martinus on January 11, 2010, 09:08:55 AM
America is a Republic, not a Democracy. It was envisaged as a Republic and it should stay a Republic. Democracies are fucked up.
This is like saying Poland should not be a state, because it is a sovereign state!  :lol:

No wonder Poland's history has been anti-democratic; Polacks don't know the meaning of the word "democracy!"
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Neil

Well, you can tell that the Democrats are rather pessimistic about midterms.
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Martinus

Quote from: Faeelin on January 11, 2010, 09:10:15 AM
Quote from: Martinus on January 11, 2010, 09:08:55 AM
America is a Republic, not a Democracy. It was envisaged as a Republic and it should stay a Republic. Democracies are fucked up.

Eh. Leaving aside that debate, you can create a Republic which doesn't give greater representation to some people based on lines on a map.

But this is irrelevant. In order to have a working Republic, you need a system in which the rulers are subject to a periodical review (and recall, if found wanting) by the general public. "Being representative" doesn't need to enter the picture.

Furthermore, if you have a bicameral legislature, there is little point having both chambers appointed according to the same rules, since it makes the upper chamber a rubber stamp kind of entity (unless you are not holding elections for both of them simultaneously - but then the country is permanently running some election campaign, which is bad for stable rule as well).

So you have various means of ensuring that at least in theory the composition of the upper chamber is different than the composition of the lower chamber, politically speaking.

grumbler

Quote from: Faeelin on January 11, 2010, 09:10:15 AM
Eh. Leaving aside that debate, you can create a Republic which doesn't give greater representation to some people based on lines on a map.
No, I don't think  that  you can.  Unless we are talking about a world government...
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Neil

Quote from: Faeelin on January 11, 2010, 08:59:07 AM
The actual solution is to get rid of the Senate, because it's an inherently undemocratic institution.
Of course it is.  That's the whole point of the Senate.  Even the founders that you people worship like gods realized that democracy is a terrible, dangerous thing that must be controlled.
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Fate

Quote from: Neil on January 11, 2010, 09:13:52 AM
Well, you can tell that the Democrats are rather pessimistic about midterms.
When were they ever optimistic about the midterms? It has been a given that they were going to lose the supermajority.