Sea Sheaperd

[Josquius]

Its really strange the Japanese still keep up whaling to such a degree they do. It seems almost as if its a national pride thing; since they're under such pressure from the hippies they have to keep doing it or else the hippies will say they've won.

Why wouldn't they?  Is there any reason not to continue whaling?

Economics.
A lot of what I've seen says whale meat is in pretty low demand in Japan, a surplus is caught which keeps prices really low. It would seem to me to be most sensible to catch a less whales and sell these for higher prices rather than expending a lot of fuel and man hours catching more than what is needed.

[Neil]

Its really strange the Japanese still keep up whaling to such a degree they do. It seems almost as if its a national pride thing; since they're under such pressure from the hippies they have to keep doing it or else the hippies will say they've won.

Why wouldn't they?  Is there any reason not to continue whaling?

Economics.
A lot of what I've seen says whale meat is in pretty low demand in Japan, a surplus is caught which keeps prices really low. It would seem to me to be most sensible to catch a less whales and sell these for higher prices rather than expending a lot of fuel and man hours catching more than what is needed.

Do you also think that it would be a good idea to grow less wheat in an effort to drive bread prices up?

[Viking]

Is that spelled right?

no

[Razgovory]

Its really strange the Japanese still keep up whaling to such a degree they do. It seems almost as if its a national pride thing; since they're under such pressure from the hippies they have to keep doing it or else the hippies will say they've won.

Why wouldn't they?  Is there any reason not to continue whaling?

Economics.
A lot of what I've seen says whale meat is in pretty low demand in Japan, a surplus is caught which keeps prices really low. It would seem to me to be most sensible to catch a less whales and sell these for higher prices rather than expending a lot of fuel and man hours catching more than what is needed.

Do you also think that it would be a good idea to grow less wheat in an effort to drive bread prices up?

Yes

[Viking]

Economics.
A lot of what I've seen says whale meat is in pretty low demand in Japan, a surplus is caught which keeps prices really low. It would seem to me to be most sensible to catch a less whales and sell these for higher prices rather than expending a lot of fuel and man hours catching more than what is needed.

In norway the allowable catch is increased by hundreds of whales each year. This is because any un-hunted quota from the previous year gets carried over to the next. It started out at around 600 and is now closing in on 2000. Nobody kills that many though, but the quota balloons.

[Monoriu]

Economics.
A lot of what I've seen says whale meat is in pretty low demand in Japan, a surplus is caught which keeps prices really low. It would seem to me to be most sensible to catch a less whales and sell these for higher prices rather than expending a lot of fuel and man hours catching more than what is needed.

In norway the allowable catch is increased by hundreds of whales each year. This is because any un-hunted quota from the previous year gets carried over to the next. It started out at around 600 and is now closing in on 2000. Nobody kills that many though, but the quota balloons.

I suggest that you securitize those quotas, then sell them in an open exchange. 

[Viking]

Economics.
A lot of what I've seen says whale meat is in pretty low demand in Japan, a surplus is caught which keeps prices really low. It would seem to me to be most sensible to catch a less whales and sell these for higher prices rather than expending a lot of fuel and man hours catching more than what is needed.

In norway the allowable catch is increased by hundreds of whales each year. This is because any un-hunted quota from the previous year gets carried over to the next. It started out at around 600 and is now closing in on 2000. Nobody kills that many though, but the quota balloons.

I suggest that you securitize those quotas, then sell them in an open exchange.

They are already transferable to buyers who are licensed whalers. It's  just that the price of the whale on the open market isn't sufficient to justify the cost of going to get it and getting the license. If anything is going to end whaling is if it is opened up to free market competition, not maintained by governments to support the principle of whaling rather than permitting the activity. Nobody makes money doing this, most of the whalers today hunt as part of outsized government funded research programs which primarily serve to maintain the right right whale in the future. If it wasn't banned it would have died a natural death some time ago being reduced to a few mom and pop operations to supply the connoisseur.

Whale meat is ok, but nobody that sells it makes an effort.. 'cause the government subsidises the whole thing. 

[jimmy olsen]

The Seashepherd guys aren't Greenpeace, they hate each other.  Greenpeace just follows the whalers around with megaphones, banners, and their tears.  These guys throw stink bombs and attempt to foul the propellers of the whaling ships using speedboats that are trailing long ropes.

Dude, they do more than that... they've intentionally rammed ships and are even suspected of sinking ships with mines before IIRC.  I think they sunk a number of Spanish whaling vessels at one point.

That's actually kind of badass. 

[jimmy olsen]

Its really strange the Japanese still keep up whaling to such a degree they do. It seems almost as if its a national pride thing; since they're under such pressure from the hippies they have to keep doing it or else the hippies will say they've won.

Why wouldn't they?  Is there any reason not to continue whaling?

Economics.
A lot of what I've seen says whale meat is in pretty low demand in Japan, a surplus is caught which keeps prices really low. It would seem to me to be most sensible to catch a less whales and sell these for higher prices rather than expending a lot of fuel and man hours catching more than what is needed.

Do you also think that it would be a good idea to grow less wheat in an effort to drive bread prices up?

It's not the same thing though, everyone eats bread, only a very few eat whales.

[Viking]

It's not the same thing though, everyone eats bread, only a very few eat whales.

The Japanese, apparently, don't eat bread, but do eat whales.

[jimmy olsen]

It's not the same thing though, everyone eats bread, only a very few eat whales.

The Japanese, apparently, don't eat bread, but do eat whales.

Well Japan it would be like comparing rice and whales.

[Jacob]

They are already transferable to buyers who are licensed whalers. It's  just that the price of the whale on the open market isn't sufficient to justify the cost of going to get it and getting the license. If anything is going to end whaling is if it is opened up to free market competition, not maintained by governments to support the principle of whaling rather than permitting the activity. Nobody makes money doing this, most of the whalers today hunt as part of outsized government funded research programs which primarily serve to maintain the right right whale in the future. If it wasn't banned it would have died a natural death some time ago being reduced to a few mom and pop operations to supply the connoisseur.

Whale meat is ok, but nobody that sells it makes an effort.. 'cause the government subsidises the whole thing.

That's pretty funny.

[Jaron]

That boat was pretty cool looking.

[jimmy olsen]

Economics.
A lot of what I've seen says whale meat is in pretty low demand in Japan, a surplus is caught which keeps prices really low. It would seem to me to be most sensible to catch a less whales and sell these for higher prices rather than expending a lot of fuel and man hours catching more than what is needed.

In norway the allowable catch is increased by hundreds of whales each year. This is because any un-hunted quota from the previous year gets carried over to the next. It started out at around 600 and is now closing in on 2000. Nobody kills that many though, but the quota balloons.

I suggest that you securitize those quotas, then sell them in an open exchange.

They are already transferable to buyers who are licensed whalers. It's  just that the price of the whale on the open market isn't sufficient to justify the cost of going to get it and getting the license. If anything is going to end whaling is if it is opened up to free market competition, not maintained by governments to support the principle of whaling rather than permitting the activity. Nobody makes money doing this, most of the whalers today hunt as part of outsized government funded research programs which primarily serve to maintain the right right whale in the future. If it wasn't banned it would have died a natural death some time ago being reduced to a few mom and pop operations to supply the connoisseur.

Whale meat is ok, but nobody that sells it makes an effort.. 'cause the government subsidises the whole thing.

What's the point then? Why should the government support it if there's no prospect of it to becoming profitable. It's not exactly a heavy industry (auto, air, etc) that one can argue is necessary to the nation.

[Sahib]

Economics.
A lot of what I've seen says whale meat is in pretty low demand in Japan, a surplus is caught which keeps prices really low. It would seem to me to be most sensible to catch a less whales and sell these for higher prices rather than expending a lot of fuel and man hours catching more than what is needed.

In norway the allowable catch is increased by hundreds of whales each year. This is because any un-hunted quota from the previous year gets carried over to the next. It started out at around 600 and is now closing in on 2000. Nobody kills that many though, but the quota balloons.

I suggest that you securitize those quotas, then sell them in an open exchange.

They are already transferable to buyers who are licensed whalers. It's  just that the price of the whale on the open market isn't sufficient to justify the cost of going to get it and getting the license. If anything is going to end whaling is if it is opened up to free market competition, not maintained by governments to support the principle of whaling rather than permitting the activity. Nobody makes money doing this, most of the whalers today hunt as part of outsized government funded research programs which primarily serve to maintain the right right whale in the future. If it wasn't banned it would have died a natural death some time ago being reduced to a few mom and pop operations to supply the connoisseur.

Whale meat is ok, but nobody that sells it makes an effort.. 'cause the government subsidises the whole thing.

What's the point then? Why should the government support it if there's no prospect of it to becoming profitable. It's not exactly a heavy industry (auto, air, etc) that one can argue is necessary to the nation.

The hatred of marine life?