Languish Universalis - Game thread

[Solmyr]

If we have no human Portugal, that would let human colonizers become very strong indeed (Castile/Spain especially).

Netherlands was just a suggestion. IMO there's no real need to artificially weaken 1492 Austria anymore, especially if there's Brandenburg in play.

I myself prefer 1492 because it has all major powers start on a more or less equal footing (aside from England which doesn't change from 1399-1453 much). Of course 1492 would be comparatively worse for Brandenburg. 1453 is ok but IMO not very different from 1399, and some people didn't like 1399, so...

[sbr]

If we have no human Portugal, that would let human colonizers become very strong indeed (Castile/Spain especially).

Netherlands was just a suggestion. IMO there's no real need to artificially weaken 1492 Austria anymore, especially if there's Brandenburg in play.

I myself prefer 1492 because it has all major powers start on a more or less equal footing (aside from England which doesn't change from 1399-1453 much). Of course 1492 would be comparatively worse for Brandenburg. 1453 is ok but IMO not very different from 1399, and some people didn't like 1399, so...

But what MP Portugal isn't attached at the hip to Castille/Spain?  They might as well be the same country, they just get twice as many colonists as anyone else.

IMO the counter a united Italy can play to both France and Austria is worth a hell of a lot more than what Portugal adds to the game.  If Spain and Portugal are going to be joined at the hip we might as well just let Spain conquer the peninsula for themsevles.

[katmai]

You bastards.
I want to realize my Milan from the 1st eu3 mp

I'd be willing to get lack of sleep to try that out again or to play Sweden.

[Tamas]

People, we can start at any date, just remember your history lessons and choose one

I really dont mind what power I get. Heck, I would not mind that much to have the Ottos again, now that they have their own tech group, unit roster, and maybe I would not get retarded monarchs and constant negative stability events in the first half of the game. But obviously they are the last on my preference list.

But to give a couple of names, England and Austria.

[Tamas]

Tamas' newbie friend (hopefully didn't take lessons from Tamas) - ?

And just what that's supposed to mean?!

I will try and contact the guy today. Will either have him register here, or tell you that he is not interested.

Hopefully we can get a bigger crew, Alci's connection should be able to handle it.

[Alcibiades]

My connection is rock solid.   

I'd like to play:  France, OE, Sweden

[Berkut]

I suspected I was the glue holding this game together...

[Tamas]

I suspected I was the glue holding this game together...

You were certainly the glue keeping the Russo-Turkish alliance together sbr jumped on me, so at one time I had Austrians blitzing down the Balkans, 130 Spanish ships blockading the Dardanelles, and Russians coming from Europe and the Caucasus.

But, he also proved you right since after a deadlock I gained the upper hand and started to gobble up his provinces and white peace him out of the war.

[Kleves]

I suppose I could take the OE (Tamas has: convinced me) or Castile.

[Solmyr]

I can take Castile then.

I also got a friend who is interested in joining, I'll have him register here asap.

[DGuller]

The more I think about it, the more I'm sure I want to play Venice.  If sbr passes on it, I want to take it.  I don't mind being a minor power, I think Italian unification would be fun with a right alliance or two.

[Habbaku]

Right, that leaves us with :

Habbaku - Brandenburg (maybe)
Kleves - Ottoman Empire
Solmyr - Castile
DGuller - Venice
Alci - France
Tamas - England
Katmai - Sweden (?)
sbr - Venice if he wants, otherwise needs to pick another
Tamas' Friend - ?
Solmyr's Friend - ?

[Tamas]

My friend has registered, currently waiting for the confirmation e-mail. Katmai probably ate it.

Have we decided on the starting date yet?

[Habbaku]

I think we're settled on 1492 with Austria releasing (and de-vassalizing) the Netherlands.

[Habbaku]

Having just checked out the scenario, though, the Netherlands isn't releasable in 1492--only Holland exists and has cores on the northern three provinces.