Languish Universalis - Game thread

[Vricklund]

Portugal just questions the bluster coming from Istanbul when the last time they fought the Austrians they were smashed and that was when he was fighting a two front war.

Hasn't the Turk learned it isn't smart to go against the ?

But a war is always costly and time consuming. It could allow the dirty to catch up.

[katmai]

Pfft France couldn't even handle the ineffectual Spanish.

[Tamas]

Pfft France couldn't even handle the ineffectual Spanish.

that, is true.

[Alcibiades]

I got your ineffectual right here.   

[katmai]

I got your ineffectual right here.   

[Kleves]

Alternatively, Turk, I suppose you could simply release Hungary , and perhaps some other Balkan states, as vassals.

[katmai]

Portugal hopes that Austria and Ottomans can work it out, but if they can't we look forward to show and will sit idly by off the coast eating popcorn.

[Tamas]

Alternatively, Turk, I suppose you could simply release Hungary , and perhaps some other Balkan states, as vassals.

Actually, I would be happy to release Hungary as vassal, but considering just what a HUGE swat of land that is, I will need an international treaty guaranteeing the independence (well, my vassalage over) Hungary. And I do mean formal guarantees up until 1821, by at the very least France.

[Alcibiades]

You would have Spanish Guarantees for the independence of Hungary, Belgium style. 


PEACE IN OUR TIME!

[Tamas]

Alright, once France and Austria also confirms their guarantees, I am happy to signt he deal and release the Magyars.
One more (obvious) condition though: NO ROYAL MARRIAGES WITH HUNGARY!

[Alcibiades]

I'll royal marriage Hungary to guarantee their independence.  I Am:  The Arbitrator.   

[Tamas]

I'll royal marriage Hungary to guarantee their independence.  I Am:  The Arbitrator.   

You can guarantee their independence without that I dont want a massive inheritance next to me. No RMs.

[Alcibiades]

Gotta compromise to get what you want.   

[Tamas]

Gotta compromise to get what you want.   

I am: I am releasing roughly one third of my realm. Please allow me to set some conditions for that.

[Jaron]

Before anyone agrees to his "conditions", I just wanted to point out some earlier posts:

That Tams is a a tricksy hobbit!

Does he abide by ANY agreements he has made?

It's pretty rare that people can get ahead by NOT honoring an agreement (most of the time agreements are made so both sides benefit from honoring them), so pointing out that you only lie occasionally doesn't really absolve you of anything, tricksy hobbit.