Stocks and Trading Thread - Channeling your inner Mono

Started by MadImmortalMan, December 21, 2009, 04:32:41 AM

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Tamas

Quote from: Zoupa on January 28, 2021, 08:41:12 AM
:lol:

It's so rigged, and transparently so.

This is what I am finding fascinating and infuriating - they can't afford to pretend it's a fair game anymore.


Josquius

I was posting about this a few months ago; the stock market is ridiculous. A self-contained economy with little bearing on the reality for the majority.

It has long left its simple roots of investing in a business that you have confidence in doing well. So much of it is now people trading bits of paper back and forth, some winning some losing. Impacts on the actual companies involved being very abstract and related to the potential to sell more bits of paper rather than any direct income from selling a stock for $100 vs $50. Its understandable that it would go ever higher and higher in this situation.

As I said however a key problem is that there's no easy and more productive way to invest your money. When you've confidence stocks (and property)= earnings, then there's no incentive to invest in things that might actually have useful effects beyond the market, like some guy in your town starting up a new brewery or the like.

We really need something to make it a viable alternative to put money towards useful needs. Even if the potential earnings are lower, if you can be fairly sure you won't lose, it could be a winner with many.
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Tamas


Admiral Yi

Changed my mind.  Bought 1 February 5 GME put @35.

Josquius

I bought 3 GME at the start of the week. Just sold 1, so I'm in profit for the lot, won't be losing anything. Now I can relax with the other 2 and see what happens.
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Sheilbh

:lol:

After de-listing some of the stocks RobinHood has been flooded with 1 star reviews and now looks like this in the App store:


A bit like in the Stock Exchange, most appstores have rules and will de-list apps if they fall below a certain rating.
Let's bomb Russia!

alfred russel

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 28, 2021, 09:54:31 AM
Changed my mind.  Bought 1 February 5 GME put @35.

How much did you pay?

Seems like almost no chance of it going under $35 a share in a week.

I was looking at a 1 year put with a strike price of $300 and the cost was $240. The universe is pricing in a collapse but I can only place short orders with Ally and Fidelity and neither will take the order. :(
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Habbaku

Quote from: Tyr on January 28, 2021, 10:00:32 AM
I bought 3 GME at the start of the week. Just sold 1, so I'm in profit for the lot, won't be losing anything. Now I can relax with the other 2 and see what happens.

You should sell them and enjoy your profits and never do this again.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: alfred russel on January 28, 2021, 10:27:26 AM
How much did you pay?

Seems like almost no chance of it going under $35 a share in a week.

I was looking at a 1 year put with a strike price of $300 and the cost was $240. The universe is pricing in a collapse but I can only place short orders with Ally and Fidelity and neither will take the order. :(

$210.

I agree about tiny chance of dropping to $35.  But as long as the share price drops I can cash out the put at a profit.  (Just before I posted Etrade was showing an option price of $2.69) And I didn't want to bet a lot of money, so I had to go pretty far down the chain to get a relatively cheap option.

DGuller

Quote from: Tyr on January 28, 2021, 10:00:32 AM
I bought 3 GME at the start of the week. Just sold 1, so I'm in profit for the lot, won't be losing anything. Now I can relax with the other 2 and see what happens.
The old "playing with the house's money" thinking again.  If you're not willing to buy 2 GME right now, then you should probably not be keeping them either.

Grey Fox

Man, I would burn all of this down. Stupid Capitalism.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Habbaku on January 28, 2021, 10:33:05 AM
You should sell them and enjoy your profits and never do this again.

I thought you were in GME.

DGuller

Quote from: Grey Fox on January 28, 2021, 10:47:53 AM
Man, I would burn all of this down. Stupid Capitalism.
This whole saga does make one question to what extent the stock market is just a casino for the rich that gives no positive contribution to society.  It definitely seems like a huge waste to have a whole bunch of really smart people trying to figure out how to one-up each other on some option squeeze play rather than put their talents to something that would make the world a better place, such as researching cure for cancer.

Admiral Yi

I wonder if Etrade just turned off GME trading.  Not showing bid/offer.