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Started by Martinus, December 20, 2009, 09:09:51 AM

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How important are lyrics for you when it comes to music you listen to?

Lyrics are the soul of a song; music is just a background
2 (7.4%)
Lyrics are about as important as much - a good song needs both to be good
14 (51.9%)
I pay attention to lyrics, but they neither make nor break a song
8 (29.6%)
Not applicable (I don't listen to music or listen only to instrumental music)
1 (3.7%)
All songs should be sung in vulgar Latin (aka the Jaron option)
2 (7.4%)

Total Members Voted: 27

Martinus

I am somewhere between option no. 2 and 3. I enjoy immensely songs with interesting or crazy lyrics, but I also like some songs that have shitty or almost non-existent lyrics (e.g. Poker Face by Lady Gaga).

Edit: Sorry, in the second option "much" should be "music".  :Embarrass:

The Brain

Voted Lyrics are about as important as music - a good song needs both to be good

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Josquius

Depends on my mood and the kind of music.
Some music I love for the lyrics (The Smiths, Pulp, etc...), other music the lyrics I don't give a damn about (largely foreign language stuff). I've one friend even says meaningful lyrics detract from the song and take your attention away from the music.
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Syt

Quote from: Tyr on December 20, 2009, 09:15:32 AM
Depends on my mood and the kind of music.
Some music I love for the lyrics (The Smiths, Pulp, etc...), other music the lyrics I don't give a damn about (largely foreign language stuff).

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DontSayBanana

None of your options really applies to me; the lyrics need to work with the quality of the song; I don't expect epic poetry from a four-chord wonder, and I expect some level of composition in a song where some work went into the music.  In fact, I can only think of one song with really obviously slapdash, repetitive music that works with actual storytelling: Hold At All Costs by Iced Earth.
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Martinus

Quote from: DontSayBanana on December 20, 2009, 09:30:21 AM
None of your options really applies to me; the lyrics need to work with the quality of the song; I don't expect epic poetry from a four-chord wonder, and I expect some level of composition in a song where some work went into the music.  In fact, I can only think of one song with really obviously slapdash, repetitive music that works with actual storytelling: Hold At All Costs by Iced Earth.

That's a misunderstanding. Thinking lyrics are important does not mean "every song should have epic poetry lyrics. It's like saying every song needs "symphonic orchestra" music.

DontSayBanana

Quote from: Martinus on December 20, 2009, 09:33:26 AM
That's a misunderstanding. Thinking lyrics are important does not mean "every song should have epic poetry lyrics. It's like saying every song needs "symphonic orchestra" music.

Point.  I think I misrepresented my position; I don't really listen for lyrics unless they're really jarringly awful for the song at hand.
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syk

Lyrics are mucho important in my mother tongue, meaning I couldn't tolerate it if they were complete and utter bs. That's less important in English. I do appreciate good lyrics there but I can live without them if the music makes up for that. In languages I don't speak at all the music is naturally the only thing to judge it by. For instance I like some songs by Ska-P, a Spanish band. I get maybe 3% of the lyrics, but the tunes are great.

Tamas

I examined this very question during Friday night. The hard-rock band I went to see with a friend has simple but good music, while utterly horrendously teeny lyrics except for a few songs. About a liter of brown beer was enough to make me forget the latter and concentrate on the former, thus music is more important. :P

But seriously, lyrics are very important. The above example (drunk headbanging) is the only one where I can enjoy the music if I find the lyrics horrbile/ridicoulous be it in Hungarian or English.

MadImmortalMan

Many types of music can stand very well on their own if the lyrics are crap. Others not so much. A lot of the music I listen to is of the former type, so I generally don't care so much. When the lyrics are brilliant it's a bonus.



Basically, the more crap the music is, the more important it is for the lyrics to be good.
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Monoriu

Music first.  Lyrics are optional that may add to a song, but I don't really care if they are crap.  Bad lyrics won't kill a good song for me; good lyrics can't rescue a bad melody.

Sheilbh

If I can understand the lyrics I zone out and pay attention to the song and listen, so I get the lyrics.  Because of that they need to be good.  If I want just music I play instrumental, classical or a foreign language because I can just listen to the sound.  But then I pay attention to that.

I have about 4-5 CDs that I can work to without getting distracted like a goldfish :(

Edit:  However I love my Arvo Part chant so I voted for the Jaron option.
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Alexandru H.

My favorite 18th-19th century pieces have no lyrics whatsoever...  :huh:

dps

If the music is really good, the lyrics aren't that important, though if they're really, really vile they can detract from a good tune.

On the other hand, if the lyrics are really good, then they can carry the song. 

Ideally, of course, you want good lyrics and good music together.

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