Employment among foreign-born in Sweden

[Slargos]

http://www.scb.se/statistik/_publikationer/LE0105_2009A01_BR_BE57BR0901.pdf

Report is in Swedish, so most of you won't get much out of it.

I'm just getting a bit flustered about this whole situation so I guess I can come off as a bit repetitive at times.

Bear with me.

This report states that out of "foreign born" IE immigrants, employment numbers are up to an astonishing 56% of men, and 44% of women after they've been 5 years in country.

Sounds like great news, right?

All the doom preaching was just silly racism.

This clearly proves that the third worlders we've been importing the last decades are the lottery winnings and pension savers they've been heralded as.

Just a second.

Go to page 92 of the report and find the definition used for "Employed".

"Anyone who has worked an average of at least one hour per week in November"

And you wonder what I'm complaining about?

[Eddie Teach]

Yes, part-timers get counted in employment statistics. This is news to you? 

[DontSayBanana]

So what's the margin employed between 1 and 12 hours (the usual minimum line for part-time wage employment in the US), or is that data available?

[PDH]

Who fucking cares, Wyoming won.

[Camerus]

Massive immigration is a reality of the 21st century.  I think you should just accept it, along with all the other things you may not like about life such as getting older etc. 

Though in fact, instead of feeling victimized by immigration trends, why don't you take advantage of it yourself and move to Thailand?   

[Viking]

Does it separate Western immigrants and non-Western immigrants like Norwegian statistics?

Cause if you include all those danes and norwegian living in sweden but working at home do they count as employed? Then there are all the Icelandic refugees working in scandinavia along with all the "normal" europeans and scandinavians living and working in sweden.

I'm not trying to fuck up your rant by providing arguments for and against it.. I just think you did a bit too much ranting and not enough informing before starting the rant.

[Slargos]

Yes, part-timers get counted in employment statistics. This is news to you? 

When it's enough to part-time ON AVERAGE ONE HOUR PER WEEK to count as employed and they still only manage to reach 50% is a fucking atrocity.

[Slargos]

Does it separate Western immigrants and non-Western immigrants like Norwegian statistics?

Cause if you include all those danes and norwegian living in sweden but working at home do they count as employed? Then there are all the Icelandic refugees working in scandinavia along with all the "normal" europeans and scandinavians living and working in sweden.

I'm not trying to fuck up your rant by providing arguments for and against it.. I just think you did a bit too much ranting and not enough informing before starting the rant.

Yes, they do and there the numbers become even worse.

Somalis: 10 years, 35%

Irakis: 10 years, 47%

Norwegians: 10 years, 73% (Here I'm not sure whether they count them as unemployed if they're working across the border though.)

This report is unusually candid, but of course they fully expect no one to actually read it, and the journalists providing the abbreviated version naturally chose to push it as an improvement.

[Eddie Teach]

And just how many people do you think are working one or two hours a week? As silly as that low a threshhold may sound, I doubt it has much impact on the numbers.

[The Brain]

And just how many people do you think are working one or two hours a week?

[Martinus]

http://www.scb.se/statistik/_publikationer/LE0105_2009A01_BR_BE57BR0901.pdf

Report is in Swedish, so most of you won't get much out of it.

I'm just getting a bit flustered about this whole situation so I guess I can come off as a bit repetitive at times.

Bear with me.

This report states that out of "foreign born" IE immigrants, employment numbers are up to an astonishing 56% of men, and 44% of women after they've been 5 years in country.

Sounds like great news, right?

All the doom preaching was just silly racism.

This clearly proves that the third worlders we've been importing the last decades are the lottery winnings and pension savers they've been heralded as.

Just a second.

Go to page 92 of the report and find the definition used for "Employed".

"Anyone who has worked an average of at least one hour per week in November"

And you wonder what I'm complaining about?

This really depends on how "employment" in general is statistically accounted for, e.g. for the purpose of unemployment benefits and statistics. This would be a cause for outrage only if methodologies in both cases were completely different.

[Monoriu]

Why are you taking in Iraqis and Somalis?  There are probably millions of hardworking, law-abiding, and skilled Chinese workers who will do anything for a chance to live and work in Sweden.

[Martinus]

Keep your Chinese blight out of Europe, kthxbye.

[Monoriu]

Keep your Chinese blight out of Europe, kthxbye.

Oh yeah they're willing to work for crap wages and inhuman hours too 

[DisturbedPervert]

Oh yeah they're willing to work for crap wages and inhuman hours too 

Only for one generation.