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British Freedom of Speech withered, dying

Started by Slargos, December 01, 2009, 07:19:31 AM

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garbon

Quote from: Grallon on December 01, 2009, 06:04:52 PM
Contrarian is thy name, and disingenuous is thy middle name. <_<

One does not make a law to prevent such a thing - one simply does not allow people who believe in such things to enter one's country!

G.

What happens if they are born in your country?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: derspiess on December 01, 2009, 06:04:01 PM
Yeah, it wasn't as bad when I was a kid, but it was there.  It was a far cry from that one school in California where you were required to "be a Muslim" for a couple weeks.

OMG, that California. So wacky.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Faeelin

Quote from: Grallon on December 01, 2009, 05:50:38 PM
I'll be tolerant of a man (insert any muslim background here) with his wife wearing a burqa and walking 3 steps behind, if I see this on TV, in a documentary about the quaint customs of some faraway land - not if I see it in the Montreal subway like I did some time ago. 

...

You're not even fun to make fun of.

Martinus

Quote from: derspiess on December 01, 2009, 06:04:01 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 01, 2009, 02:17:05 PM
Do they attempt culture enriching in school these days?  They didn't when I was a lad, but that was back when official multiculturalism was in it's infancy, and was still mostly based on anti-Americanism.

Yeah, it wasn't as bad when I was a kid, but it was there.  It was a far cry from that one school in California where you were required to "be a Muslim" for a couple weeks.

I was required to "be a hetero" for my entire time at high school.

Ed Anger

Quote from: Martinus on December 01, 2009, 06:54:44 PM
Quote from: derspiess on December 01, 2009, 06:04:01 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 01, 2009, 02:17:05 PM
Do they attempt culture enriching in school these days?  They didn't when I was a lad, but that was back when official multiculturalism was in it's infancy, and was still mostly based on anti-Americanism.

Yeah, it wasn't as bad when I was a kid, but it was there.  It was a far cry from that one school in California where you were required to "be a Muslim" for a couple weeks.

I was required to "be a hetero" for my entire time at high school.

Your silk scarves were a dead giveaway.
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dps

Quote from: Grallon on December 01, 2009, 06:04:52 PM
Quote from: garbon on December 01, 2009, 05:52:36 PM
How could you have a law that prevents a man from having his wife walk behind him? :huh:


Contrarian is thy name, and disingenuous is thy middle name. <_<

One does not make a law to prevent such a thing - one simply does not allow people who believe in such things to enter one's country!




G.

And you think that the attitude that a man is the lord and master of his wife is restricted to particular ethnic, cultural, or religious groups, so you can easily identify them and keep them out?

Neil

Quote from: Martinus on December 01, 2009, 06:54:44 PM
I was required to "be a hetero" for my entire time at high school.
You gave up too soon.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Grallon

"Clearly, a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself."

~Jean-François Revel

Neil

Zut allors!  Mange poisson avec moi.

Içi, on parle en anglais, car Wolfe a gagner.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.


Sheilbh

Quote from: derspiess on December 01, 2009, 02:06:17 PM
Where is this "real" multiculturalism?  In many/most cases, the multiculturalism I know tends to be forced on people.  Like in school, for example.
London seems close to the successful real multicultiness.

I always thought multiculturalism was actually a sort of way of dealing with numerous cultures within a society or a city.  I didn't realise that it was really religious education classes about Hinduism :mellow:
Let's bomb Russia!

Richard Hakluyt

I've never liked multicultural as a term, it seems inaccurate to me, a better description would be broadminded and tolerant.

So, we can welcome Islam and muslims, but not Islam as it is practised in Saudi Arabia.......for example.

So, a muslim that accepted these overarching values of tolerance and secularism trumping religion would not belong to a different culture IMO, he would be a Westerner.

The Ottoman empire was a multicultural state in that it had different laws for people with different cultures. A country like Britain has the same laws for all, so, if we are multicultural, then we continuously hobble and restrict the component cultures.


Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Neil on December 01, 2009, 09:29:18 PM
Zut allors!  Mange poisson avec moi.

Içi, on parle en anglais, car Wolfe a gagner.

Grey Wolf-like grammar/spelling, vorsicht!

Zut alors!  Mange du poisson avec moi(sic).

Ici, on parle (en) anglais, car Wolfe a gagné.

Razgovory

Quote from: Sheilbh on December 02, 2009, 01:47:18 AM
Quote from: derspiess on December 01, 2009, 02:06:17 PM
Where is this "real" multiculturalism?  In many/most cases, the multiculturalism I know tends to be forced on people.  Like in school, for example.
London seems close to the successful real multicultiness.

I always thought multiculturalism was actually a sort of way of dealing with numerous cultures within a society or a city.  I didn't realise that it was really religious education classes about Hinduism :mellow:

You learn something everyday.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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