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4 Cops gunned down in Washington coffee shop

Started by jimmy olsen, November 29, 2009, 06:56:24 PM

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Fate

Quote from: Martinus on November 30, 2009, 07:52:00 AM
QuoteIn 1990, Clemmons, then 18, was sentenced in Arkansas to 60 years in prison for burglary and theft of property

Ok, that is fucked up. Any legal system that is capable of sentencing a 18 y.o. for 60 years in prison for crimes that do not involve death or severe injury (irrespective of any past criminal record and whatnot) deserves any shit it gets.

Harsh prison sentences are necessary to keep the black population in check. You obviously don't live in a city with a dangerous and socially backwards ethnic minority.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Fate on November 30, 2009, 08:37:54 AM
You obviously don't live in a city with a dangerous and socially backwards ethnic minority.

:lol:
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Caliga

Quote from: Ed Anger on November 30, 2009, 08:37:07 AM
I was doubting the guy would be taken alive anyways. Even if he tried to surrender.
:yes: Assuming they have positive ID that he's the guy, if he holes up like that IMO the proper strategy is to:

a) ensure that there isn't anyone else in the house with him
b) fill the place with lead

It's not worth risking more law enforcement lives on a guy like that.
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Fate

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 30, 2009, 08:46:08 AM
Quote from: Fate on November 30, 2009, 08:37:54 AM
You obviously don't live in a city with a dangerous and socially backwards ethnic minority.

:lol:

Slavics are dangerous and socially backwards, but they don't constitute a minority in Poland.   :P

Berkut

Quote from: Sheilbh on November 30, 2009, 08:31:46 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 29, 2009, 09:06:35 PM
The SWAT team seems like overkill. 
I thought that.

If you are not going to use your SWAT team to go after the guy who has already killed 4 police officers in cold blood, WTF do you have  SWAT team for?

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Jaron

Quote from: Berkut on November 30, 2009, 09:07:34 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 30, 2009, 08:31:46 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 29, 2009, 09:06:35 PM
The SWAT team seems like overkill. 
I thought that.

If you are not going to use your SWAT team to go after the guy who has already killed 4 police officers in cold blood, WTF do you have  SWAT team for?

photo ops
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Martinus

Quote from: alfred russel on November 30, 2009, 08:21:16 AM
Quote from: Martinus on November 30, 2009, 07:52:00 AM
QuoteIn 1990, Clemmons, then 18, was sentenced in Arkansas to 60 years in prison for burglary and theft of property

Ok, that is fucked up. Any legal system that is capable of sentencing a 18 y.o. for 60 years in prison for crimes that do not involve death or severe injury (irrespective of any past criminal record and whatnot) deserves any shit it gets.

Maybe the thread where the guy goes on a killing rampage isn't the place to argue long sentences are fucked up.

Disagree. If anything, he was a victim of injustice and the pigs who got shot deserve what they got for defending the corrupt and unjust system.

Eddie Teach

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Fireblade

Quote from: Martinus on November 30, 2009, 07:52:00 AM
QuoteIn 1990, Clemmons, then 18, was sentenced in Arkansas to 60 years in prison for burglary and theft of property

Ok, that is fucked up. Any legal system that is capable of sentencing a 18 y.o. for 60 years in prison for crimes that do not involve death or severe injury (irrespective of any past criminal record and whatnot) deserves any shit it gets.

Welcome to Arkansas? :P

DGuller

Quote from: Berkut on November 30, 2009, 09:07:34 AM
If you are not going to use your SWAT team to go after the guy who has already killed 4 police officers in cold blood, WTF do you have  SWAT team for?
But they weren't going after the bad guy in that shot, they were on a crime scene.

Jaron

Quote from: Martinus on November 30, 2009, 09:18:43 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on November 30, 2009, 08:21:16 AM
Quote from: Martinus on November 30, 2009, 07:52:00 AM
QuoteIn 1990, Clemmons, then 18, was sentenced in Arkansas to 60 years in prison for burglary and theft of property

Ok, that is fucked up. Any legal system that is capable of sentencing a 18 y.o. for 60 years in prison for crimes that do not involve death or severe injury (irrespective of any past criminal record and whatnot) deserves any shit it gets.

Maybe the thread where the guy goes on a killing rampage isn't the place to argue long sentences are fucked up.

Disagree. If anything, he was a victim of injustice and the pigs who got shot deserve what they got for defending the corrupt and unjust system.

And you wonder why you get so much shit. :rolleyes:
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Caliga

Quote from: Martinus on November 30, 2009, 09:18:43 AM
Disagree. If anything, he was a victim of injustice and the pigs who got shot deserve what they got for defending the corrupt and unjust system.
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grumbler

Quote from: Martinus on November 30, 2009, 07:48:32 AM
(snip) Having a coffee and a doughnut while on duty may not be the most decent thing to do, (snip)
Miscomprehend what you read much?
QuoteThe officers were sitting in the cafe at a strip mall near the Tacoma suburb of Parkland with their laptop computers, preparing for their day shifts,
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grumbler

Quote from: Jaron on November 30, 2009, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: Martinus on November 30, 2009, 09:18:43 AM
Disagree. If anything, he was a victim of injustice and the pigs who got shot deserve what they got for defending the corrupt and unjust system.
And you wonder why you get so much shit. :rolleyes:
One of his more amusing bits of deliberate hyperbole, IMO.
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Berkut

Quote from: DGuller on November 30, 2009, 09:33:16 AM
Quote from: Berkut on November 30, 2009, 09:07:34 AM
If you are not going to use your SWAT team to go after the guy who has already killed 4 police officers in cold blood, WTF do you have  SWAT team for?
But they weren't going after the bad guy in that shot, they were on a crime scene.

But they did not know if the bad guy was still around somewhere, presumably.

Makes sense to have them there and ready in case the bad guy is found in some store nearby or whatever.
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