Lady Thatcher is dead

[Crazy_Ivan80]

You know, when the real Thatcher dies, she's going to be remembered as the greatest Briton since Churchill.

Yup.
For a brief, shining moment, she made Britain relevant again.  If only for a while.

She made Britain appear relevant. Her role in breaking Old Labor and forcing the creation of New Labor should not be underestimated.  Britain is politically a far, far different place than it was when I lived there, thanks to her and most especially to the reaction to her.

"Catalyst" is a word too often used for politicians, but it applies to her.

Ronald Reagon was a non-entity compared to her.

it's something that'll vex many britons for generations to come

[Martinus]

"Catalyst" is a word too often used for politicians, but it applies to her.

Well, you could say the same about Hitler. "People hate you so much, it changes the world" is not exactly the most ringing kind of endorsement.

[The Brain]

She smacked the unions and Labour around. Good enough for me.

[Neil]

"Catalyst" is a word too often used for politicians, but it applies to her.

Well, you could say the same about Hitler. "People hate you so much, it changes the world" is not exactly the most ringing kind of endorsement.

People don't hate Thatcher, except for maladjusted retards.

[Lndhand]

Her rise to power just goes to show you that a woman can change the stars.   

[Josquius]

You know, when the real Thatcher dies, she's going to be remembered as the greatest Briton since Churchill.

Wrong.
If people  these days weren't so lazy and were perhaps a bit meaner there would be street parties at the news.

[Josephus]

You know, when the real Thatcher dies, she's going to be remembered as the greatest Briton since Churchill.

Wrong.
If people  these days weren't so lazy and were perhaps a bit meaner there would be street parties at the news.

I agree.

Trouble is the only people who would throw a street party are under 35, and most Brits under 35 don't have a clue who she was....note I said "Most" not "all"

[Admiral Yi]

I'm familiar with the case for Thatcher.  What's the case against her?

[Josephus]

I'm familiar with the case for Thatcher.  What's the case against her?

She wasn't hot.

[Razgovory]

I'm familiar with the case for Thatcher.  What's the case against her?

She wasn't hot.

She wasn't Clement Attlee.

[Josephus]

I'm familiar with the case for Thatcher.  What's the case against her?

What is the case for her, again?

and don't just parrot the "she busted the unions" thing. I want to know how she did that, and what were the immediate repercussions and how that's made Britain a better place to be today.

500 wds or less...due on my desk Monday morning. 

[Admiral Yi]

What is the case for her, again?

and don't just parrot the "she busted the unions" thing. I want to know how she did that, and what were the immediate repercussions and how that's made Britain a better place to be today.

500 wds or less...due on my desk Monday morning. 

I asked first.

[grumbler]

What is the case for her, again?

and don't just parrot the "she busted the unions" thing. I want to know how she did that, and what were the immediate repercussions and how that's made Britain a better place to be today.

500 wds or less...due on my desk Monday morning. 

I asked first.

Indeed, and I suspect the reason Jos was weaseling out of answering you is that he really doesn't know the case against her, he just knows "Thatcher bad, m'kay?" 

However, he has assigned himself 500 words or less by Monday, so i expect he can find some anti-Thatcherite diatribe he can crib in that amount of time.  I rather respect he will ignore his own instructions to include how she did that, and what were the immediate repercussions and how that's made Britain a worse  place to be today.

[Josephus]

You got it wrong. Admiral Yi said "I am familiar with the case for her"

I, seriously, want to know what that is; before I can make my counter argument. In other words, I am not familiar with the case for her. Please explain. I am an idiot. Thanks.

[Josephus]

One other thing: I can't be arsed to "crib some anti-thatcher diatribe" although there is a lot out there. In my opinion, she isn't worth the time and effort it takes. I don't know that much about her. I didn't live in England at the time. I never studied her in school. I do remember hating the sound of her voice, and turning off the TV when she came on.

I'll throw in a couple bones though, because contrary to popular opinion here, unlike the majority of you, I am not blinded by ideology.

Although I can't stand Thatcherism and think it is highly evil, and know that a large population of Britons, espcially in the north had everything including the kitchen sink taken away from them,  I'll admit this:

1. She had the Balls to stick it to the Argies. I love a good war.
2. I"m not sure if I'll agree with Neil and say that she'll go down as the greatest leader after Churchill, I'll concede that at least she will go down in history as being one of the most powerful and influential British PMs. Unlike many other politiicans, she won't be quickly forgotten.

But I will have a beer when she dies.