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A NATO Without Turkey?

Started by jimmy olsen, November 08, 2009, 07:27:32 AM

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Warspite

Quote from: Queequeg on November 08, 2009, 11:46:51 AM
Jesus, when did the WSJ become that bad?  That is one pathetic article.

TBH it looks like the editor was owed a favour by a partisan hack, and they needed some copy urgently before a deadline.
" SIR – I must commend you on some of your recent obituaries. I was delighted to read of the deaths of Foday Sankoh (August 9th), and Uday and Qusay Hussein (July 26th). Do you take requests? "

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Jaron

What nerve, Tim. The only thing bad about Mexico is the people that live there. But at least they're a free people. Your people are slaves. Slaves to the Spanish and slaves to America.

At least you're a happy, ignorant slave though.


And your homeland? Your island is nothing more than a oversized refueling port and test range. Thats all it ever was, and all it will ever be.

Don't try to flout your English heritage. You haven't got enough white blood to save you.
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Warspite on November 08, 2009, 12:23:54 PM
TBH it looks like the editor was owed a favour by a partisan hack, and they needed some copy urgently before a deadline.

I didn't realize we had pro- and anti-Turkish parties here.  :huh:
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 08, 2009, 12:56:29 PM
Quote from: Warspite on November 08, 2009, 12:23:54 PM
TBH it looks like the editor was owed a favour by a partisan hack, and they needed some copy urgently before a deadline.

I didn't realize we had pro- and anti-Turkish parties here.  :huh:

Anti-Turkish = Europeans.
Pro-Turkish = Everybody else.

The Euros soooooo love to mask their xenophobia behind stuff like economic issues.

FunkMonk

Quote from: Jaron on November 08, 2009, 12:37:28 PM
What nerve, Tim. The only thing bad about Mexico is the people that live there. But at least they're a free people. Your people are slaves. Slaves to the Spanish and slaves to America.

At least you're a happy, ignorant slave though.


And your homeland? Your island is nothing more than a oversized refueling port and test range. Thats all it ever was, and all it will ever be.

Don't try to flout your English heritage. You haven't got enough white blood to save you.

:lmfao:
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Warspite

Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 08, 2009, 01:00:58 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 08, 2009, 12:56:29 PM
Quote from: Warspite on November 08, 2009, 12:23:54 PM
TBH it looks like the editor was owed a favour by a partisan hack, and they needed some copy urgently before a deadline.

I didn't realize we had pro- and anti-Turkish parties here.  :huh:

Anti-Turkish = Europeans.
Pro-Turkish = Everybody else.

The Euros soooooo love to mask their xenophobia behind stuff like economic issues.

You'd have more credibility if you weren't so reflexively anti-European.
" SIR – I must commend you on some of your recent obituaries. I was delighted to read of the deaths of Foday Sankoh (August 9th), and Uday and Qusay Hussein (July 26th). Do you take requests? "

OVO JE SRBIJA
BUDALO, OVO JE POSTA

katmai

Quote from: Warspite on November 08, 2009, 01:45:56 PM

You'd have more credibility if you weren't so reflexively anti-European.

Stop hating the turks and the joos!
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Syt

Quote from: katmai on November 08, 2009, 01:50:25 PM
Quote from: Warspite on November 08, 2009, 01:45:56 PM

You'd have more credibility if you weren't so reflexively anti-European.

Stop hating the turks!

If the majority of Turks we got over here were not East Anatolian koran-thumping tribal goatherders we might do that.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Warspite on November 08, 2009, 01:45:56 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 08, 2009, 01:00:58 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 08, 2009, 12:56:29 PM
Quote from: Warspite on November 08, 2009, 12:23:54 PM
TBH it looks like the editor was owed a favour by a partisan hack, and they needed some copy urgently before a deadline.

I didn't realize we had pro- and anti-Turkish parties here.  :huh:

Anti-Turkish = Europeans.
Pro-Turkish = Everybody else.

The Euros soooooo love to mask their xenophobia behind stuff like economic issues.

You'd have more credibility if you weren't so reflexively anti-European.

You'd have more credibility if you weren't so European.
And stop hating Jews and brown people not from India.

Warspite

Quote from: katmai on November 08, 2009, 01:50:25 PM
Quote from: Warspite on November 08, 2009, 01:45:56 PM

You'd have more credibility if you weren't so reflexively anti-European.

Stop hating the turks and the joos!

I love joos so much that I've even lived in Israel :P and I support Turkish entry into the EU. :bowler:
" SIR – I must commend you on some of your recent obituaries. I was delighted to read of the deaths of Foday Sankoh (August 9th), and Uday and Qusay Hussein (July 26th). Do you take requests? "

OVO JE SRBIJA
BUDALO, OVO JE POSTA

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Queequeg on November 08, 2009, 11:46:51 AM
Jesus, when did the WSJ become that bad?  That is one pathetic article.

The op-ed pages have always been a haven for hansmeisterian dreck.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

The Minsky Moment

Interesting how the article makes much of Western pressure to keep the military in their barracks as an apparent contibutor to Turkey's supposed drift from the West and its growing "illiberalism"(!)  Yet no mention is made of the steady barrage of insulting comments directed at the country from major leaders in Europe in connection with its moribund EU application.  That might have just a little bit to do with the current government's eastern turn.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Eddie Teach

I agree, let's blame Europe.  :)
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Viking

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 08, 2009, 03:16:50 PM
Interesting how the article makes much of Western pressure to keep the military in their barracks as an apparent contibutor to Turkey's supposed drift from the West and its growing "illiberalism"(!)  Yet no mention is made of the steady barrage of insulting comments directed at the country from major leaders in Europe in connection with its moribund EU application.  That might have just a little bit to do with the current government's eastern turn.

Aye, yet another case of telling somebody what to do and how to do it; and being surprised that it neither gets done nor your instructions being followed.
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Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
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Cecil

Quote from: Viking on November 08, 2009, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 08, 2009, 03:16:50 PM
Interesting how the article makes much of Western pressure to keep the military in their barracks as an apparent contibutor to Turkey's supposed drift from the West and its growing "illiberalism"(!)  Yet no mention is made of the steady barrage of insulting comments directed at the country from major leaders in Europe in connection with its moribund EU application.  That might have just a little bit to do with the current government's eastern turn.

Aye, yet another case of telling somebody what to do and how to do it; and being surprised that it neither gets done nor your instructions being followed.

Much like US telling us to let them in?  :P